http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ ElsaElsa Boards Topic: Halloween Chart Discussion - Lizzie Borden! en Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:06:53 +0000 http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-31586 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:47:41 +0000 DreamsAreality 31586@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>Didn't Elizabeth Montgomery (Bewitched's Samantha) play her in a movie???? </p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-31569 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:48:26 +0000 StarGirl 31569@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>Libra is the only inanimate sign, therefore she 'sees' the world as inhuman and also has the ability to appear nice along with the classic Libra power of excellent strategy, thats why lots of military leaders have Libra prominent.</p> <p>The ruler of Libra, Venus sits in Cancer love of the home. All the 10th focus shows that prestige, honour and social standing were of paramount importance. Mars in Capricorn 3rd brings bloody defence to ones reputation in the neighbourhood and may also imply her sister.</p> <p>Leos can be tyrants, domineering and beastially cruel, they relate to people best when they are in control and they see things in clear black &amp; white terms which is why they are so good at organising.</p> <p>The opposition between Mars/Venus show her love/hate relationships. To her it seems everything was simple.</p> <p>The packed 10th house, the Mars squaring ascendant, the Pluto in the 7th (open enemies) and Uranus in 8th-self mastery, inheritance. Her reputation was on the line shown by the emphasis of Leo/Capricorn and Libra show that appearances were everything, to lose her station in life, especially in those days was unthinkable.</p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27570 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:50:13 +0000 SaDiablo 27570@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>OOH, thanks!&nbsp; *off to devour the article* </p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27569 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:44:00 +0000 amy 27569@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>That article <em>is</em> online. Here's the link:</p> <p><a href="http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1992/4/1992_4_66.shtml">http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1992/4/1992_4_66.shtml</a> </p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27567 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:39:37 +0000 amy 27567@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>SaDiablo, the magazine American Heritage had an article back in the 90's that&nbsp;set out an entire theory of incest and sexual abuse in this case. They theorized that the memory of it came back to her when she hit her mid-30's and she snapped. It was very interesting and really made a compelling argument for it. The article may be available online.</p> <p>As far as her being acquitted, in those days people just didn't believe that a woman would be capable of such a thing. Especially given that juries were 100% men.</p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27550 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:44:11 +0000 SaDiablo 27550@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>I've always thought she did, and furthermore that there was some incest/sexual abuse thing going on.&nbsp; It's just the feeling I get every time I read or watch anything about the case.<br />Two wealthy, available daughters long past marrying age living at home with very little social interaction then this bizarre double murder?&nbsp; Yeah... I think daddy was diddlin' his girls and one finally snapped.</p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27549 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:12:44 +0000 LisLioness 27549@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>Luci, here's the time if you want to do the chart over:&nbsp; 9:46 AM in Fall River, MA, USA.</p> <p>I found the time on Astrotheme.&nbsp; The ASC is 25 Virgo, and The six planets from Cancer-Leo go into the 11th house.&nbsp; So it's still a top-heavy chart.</p> <p>Mars is in the 4th house.&nbsp; That wouldn't stand out as much if it wasn't in CAPRICORN and didn'toppose the Sun/Venus conjunction in CANCER.</p> <p>Neptune is very close to the DSC.&nbsp; That means someone who's an engima to others and themselves.&nbsp; I don't think it's much of a surprise that no one could establish any clear motive in this case.</p> <p>I personally don't think she did it. </p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27545 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:21:48 +0000 satori 27545@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>aaaaaaah. &nbsp;:) </p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27542 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:14:10 +0000 luci 27542@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>Satori: I didn't know her time of birth so I used noon. It may very well not be that bad. </p> http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/halloween-chart-discussion-lizzy-borden#post-27534 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:19:05 +0000 Liz 27534@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ <p>Good point Satori. </p>