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ElsaElsa Boards Topic: Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in......... http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ ElsaElsa Boards Topic: Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in......... en Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:46:01 +0000 SaDiablo on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-27901 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:26:16 +0000 SaDiablo 27901@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ Thank you, sczena, and please do keep me/us posted!  There's plenty of good times and good advice to be had from the peeps here.  <img src="/my-plugins/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/icon_biggrin.gif" /> sczena on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-27877 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:24:40 +0000 sczena 27877@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in again.....Hey SaDiablo....just read your post today and thank you so much for your response:-)  It really helped me after the one from anonymous which made me feel stupid for even posting it - they weren't very nice or productive.  I am doing pretty well considering everything.  You take care and I will post in the future how things are going. SaDiablo on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-27103 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:21:25 +0000 SaDiablo 27103@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ You sound like you're in a very good place with all this, sczena.  That makes me quite warm-n-fuzzy.  <img src="/my-plugins/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/icon_smile.gif" />  I hope that if your Scorpio Venus does make it back that you have the answers you need.  Good luck! ram on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-27052 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:43:43 +0000 ram 27052@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ Hi sczena, I'm libra with some scorpio, I know something about the mess that can happen when the 2 energy are confused. I support your asking for how to get over it, and I'll try to give my contribute by picture myself as the guy: if I was such a mess as he is right now, I'll have to realize at some point that the only way to decide to committ is to committ to decide. And that means you only start a relationship when you are ready to, and not because you like it soo much. I did that myself. I have been single for a long time, if being in a relationship right now would mean to torture my partner with my indecision it means I'm not ready for a relationship. He is in a very unsafe position with his own feelings; do you want to get yourself in that?   sczena on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-27039 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:37:13 +0000 sczena 27039@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ Hi all - Just got to reading the feedback on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in".  Thanks for some of the insights.  To one anonymous:  No, it wasn't critical nor was it written because of a lack of sexual security....all I am asking for is honesty...he is free to choose who or what he wants but telling me he loves me and then finding texts the day after asking a gal to come over for "no strings attached fun" shows he is very confused, deceitful, or sex-crazed...maybe all the above.  I've dealt with lower scorpios my whole life and when they are not from a higher place, they say crazy, hurtful things to test you, get you mad, etc.  I am not ranting and raving....sorry you feel so angered by my simply asking for advice & telling others what happened.  You have no idea what I went through with him...you seem very cold to me and perhaps you need to see why you are so angered by my post.  To SaDiablo....you are right also...I was and am still angry at the dishonesty, not his "choices"....if he really loves or needs someone else I am stupid to stay & hope he finds someone else.  Yes, I deserve respect...everyone does....if he does come back, I would insist on it.  A higher power gave us a full range of emotions to feel with, but not get lost/stuck in.  I am moving on....not contacted him in a month though I think about him all the time.  I do realize if we are soul-partners, he will get his act together and come around...if not, I know I will move on.  I have forgiven so many people for things most couldn't, so I have to do some serious soul-searching if he does come back regarding trust on my end - whether it's healthy for me or not.  Anonymous on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-21993 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:24:23 +0000 Anonymous 21993@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ You can see in my post that I said being angry in the beginning is okay, and it does take as long as it takes, however, I think you should get over it sooner rather than eventually. Your post sounds very critical.  The OP's predicament seems to inspire a strong reaction.  My strong reaction is wondering why cheating spouses still have such a strong grip on humans.. we give these people FAR too much power when our own selves are so threatened by the choices others make, and often times it is our own sexual inadequacies we feel threatened by when a lover feels more free to express their biology and spirituality in a way we cannot.  But this all reminds me of the attitude which so many girls began to emulate from that Destiny Child song "Survivor", where they sing how strong and evolved and above the player they are yet all the while doing it by pointing out his faults and his shortcomings and with that "talk to the hand" attitude.  Listen, I totally understand how you feel from a human perspective.  I REALLY do.  But you have to realize that WE are the ones who write all these scenarios into our charts for ourselves prior to being born into our next life.  We do this because our soul knows what we need in our next incarnation to evolve, and we always have choices and a way out to begin resolving the dramas in some way.. but even when we don't, even then we have chosen to experience these circumstances for our own greater good.  That doesn't absolve the other person from their actions at all, but it is THEIR karma to work through and getting mad at them only distracts from the issue in many ways. That's what I meant when I said about distracting the person from taking responsibility.. when we go on with our own lives with quiet dignity, then we are allowing the person to accept the consequences of their actions without adding fuel to the fire.  This has nothing to do with forgiving the other person in an open way, but forgiving yourself for taking it on the chin like a fool because in the end it's not worth the hassle if you can at all help it.  Quite simply, if I know someone is in the wrong then there is no need to go on about it because people rarely listen and understand: they need to figure it out on their own... or not, in which case you are really wasting your time.  Ranting and raving rarely accomplishes much. As for my quotes, I stand by them.  The first one you took somewhat out of context.. I know it's similar but it's not really the meaning of what I said since you left out the middle. As for the second, people really do NOT owe you anything, and expecting and waiting for what you feel you are entitled to can often bring great disappointment and disillusionment.  Because they all have a story too, and are in turn ranting and raving about you.. so who's right?  Humans are blind to 95% of what's around them, I read that somewhere and it really rings true.  It's so easy to think we are right, and even if we are it doesn't deny the existence of so much more we can't possibly understand in the here and now.  Our challenge in this dimension is to be able to forgive our neighbours the unspeakable because we are really all one, and anger only seperates us while the goal of living is to grow closer to your fellow man.  Until a person can do that, they will never transcend the need to incarnate for another round in this dimension.  The lesson here is to not worry about what the other person is doing because their choices have nothing to do with how you navigate your own development. SaDiablo on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-21989 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:52:20 +0000 SaDiablo 21989@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ "to bear ill will toward your partner or ex-partner is ... taking away his responsibility for his behaviour." I have to disagree.  I think being angry at someone who did you wrong, unless you're also refusing to see your own complicity, is laying the resposibility for his/her behaviour exactly where it should be.  Contrast that to someone like myself, who gets shat on and immediately thinks it's my fault for standing in the path and only much, much later thinks, "Well, why did they shit right then/there when they clearly saw me standing there?" Now, granted, sometimes there's collateral damage, and there are always accidents and unintentional slights and blah, blah, blah, BUT when someone hurts you intentionally, I think you're quite justified in being pissed about it.  It's disrespectful. Of course, eventually you should get over it.  Carrying around anger or outright hatred for extended periods is much more damaging to you than to the party that injured you.  However, I don't think you should rush forgiveness any more than you should rush any other emotion.  It takes as long as it takes, and for some it takes longer than others. Also: "...people don't owe you anything." I think everyone owes every other person a very basic level of respect as a human being. Anonymous on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-21982 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:59:19 +0000 Anonymous 21982@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ Why does everything have to be one way or the other?  Trying to get a resolution can be very premature.  You can definitely live your life without making plans waiting on him.. at the same time you don't have to write him out of your life unless he betrayed you (and only you know the situation on that front because your post wasn't really clear either).  Life does not offer clear cut resolutions or endings.. many times we have loose ends which are tangled up and won't go away no matter how inconvenient they are to our vanity.  Through my life experience I have learned (and if I don't have the answer on this one NO ONE does) that to bear ill will toward your partner or ex-partner is the absolute worst thing you can do, I don't care what he did.  By doing this you are taking away his responsibility for his behaviour.  Being mad in the beginning is one thing and okay but it must be resolved as quickly as possible.  I know this is extremely easy for me to say because I got burned so bad I couldn't help but transcend those feelings forever, but people don't owe you anything.  Unfortunately, I have lost all sympathy in relating to your predicament due to becoming more enlightened on these things so don't think me a jerk.  Just keep in precious memory what is important, bear no ill will or gossip, and listen to your heart and do what YOU think is best for YOU and you will not go wrong whatever the future holds! SaDiablo on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-21799 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:08:14 +0000 SaDiablo 21799@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ Listen to the goddess^^.  That's some good advice right there. I took my own Venus in Scorp back in February and ended it again sometime around April.  Although my soul knows he's going to be back around at some point, nah-uh.  I'm done, done, done, done, done.  Like a Christmas goose that's been in the oven for two days. Look at it this way: I'm not ready for a commitment, sweetheart, and I never really loved you anyway, but could you please overlook that and take me back after I screw every other woman in the state before deciding that you're what I need?  Please?  I'm just an insecure man, after all... you can't expect us to be faithful while we work out our issues! How appealing is that?  You're truly better off without him. goddess on "Venus in Scorpio reeled me back in........." http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/venus-in-scorpio-reeled-me-back-in#post-21720 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:14:41 +0000 goddess 21720@http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ "I will never have love in my heart for you again...I know my feelings" followed by "let's not see each other any more".  WOW....I feel like a total jerko for letting this happen.  I thought we'd have a life together and know he does love me. My suggestion is to take him at his word instead of refusing to believe it. Even if he were to later come back for another attempted "solution," how many times do you want to go through this cycle? -from an unconfused Venus in Scorpio