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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>Yarrow Bird on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Lunalie, I am a Virgo Sun/Jup/Sat and relate to needing a clean space to think/work. I am an excellent organizer and in a shared living situation, I basically very neat and a great organizer.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here's the catch. If I have my own room it is usually a disaster of clothes strewn on the floor, etc. I don't get it. It feels like a Neptune thing though...that familiar fog. I have Nep on the Asc. conj. Moon. and square my Virgo planets. I don't know but it drives me crazy. Trying to put away my stuff feels like trying to move through heavy mud. &#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So I will not mess up &#38;quot;your&#38;quot; stuff, but I have a serious clothing fog.&#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My ex was had Virgo on the Asc trine Saturn and conj. Pluto. He had little labeled drawers with everything from Q-tips to screws labeled by size. I simultaneously loved and was creeped out by this!&#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Bananas on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Bananas</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm virgo venus and rising and I love order and neatness but am prone to messy spells where everything is just out of hand and I can't get it together. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Right now, my house is pretty damn clean - but still not perfect. I found out recently that my mom's method of cleaning doesn't work in the real world. She won't start a project unless she's ready to do it start to finish. With life and all its interruptions, that will get you nowhere fast.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've adopted the &#38;quot;clean as you go&#38;quot; method recently. It's really the best one yet. &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>nutsymaclewis on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sea, I'm the same way about cleaning...&#38;nbsp; I can't afford to waste time in huge chunks by taking on a &#38;quot;cleaning day&#38;quot;.&#38;nbsp; On my weekends, between writing &#38;amp; proof-reading, I'll take a break every now and then to do a little piece of cleaning or a&#38;nbsp;selected&#38;nbsp;rep&#38;nbsp;from my list of&#38;nbsp;workouts, and then get back to work.&#38;nbsp; That way, I feel that I'm getting more into my day by doing these various things.&#38;nbsp; By the time Sunday night comes around I pat myself on the head for doing so much and say (like a master to his obedient dog) &#38;quot;Good boy!&#38;nbsp; Gooood boyyyyy!&#38;quot;&#38;nbsp; :D
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<title>Sea on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Sea</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;One of the messy Virgos here checking in. Just to give more of a voice to this. - Not enough people who are into astrology understand that Virgos CAN be messy. (I'm Virgo sun, uranus, and pluto.) I need freedom! Cleaning up all the time and putting order to things is restricting to me. And I'd never ask it of others - you want to be messy, go ahead. I can think very well with absolute chaos surrounding me. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My mother has a Virgo moon and is a much bigger neatfreak than I am. Growing up, she used to leave something like a tissue on the staircase to see if I would pick it up, and when I didn't, she would fume for weeks, and bring it up in various chastising sessions for months. I just didn't get it. Just didn't understand why cleaning up was supposed to be one of the main lessons for parents to impart - I really thought she was missing the boat on a whole lot of more important things, come to think of it.&#38;nbsp; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My &#60;em&#62;worst &#60;/em&#62;time was living with a Cancer with Venus in Virgo. She would just freak out - absolute judgmental crabbiness - whenever I would do the dishes but not finish cleaning the counter. She didn't think it was worth cleaning anything unless you were going to clean it fully and completely. And in fact, she could live in complete filth, if she got moody and depressed (which was often), because her high standards prevented her from cleaning only partially. Oh, well.&#38;nbsp; &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not me. I don't see the point of waiting until one's ready to do a huge job of cleaning. I never clean my house all at once. I do a little at a time, here and there, as I feel like it. So much freer - and also so much more likely to get done. I've always been satisfied with the cleanliness of the very great range of people I've lived with. It's not worth setting up impossible goals. As a result, my place always looks fairly clean.&#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As for organization, I have a reputation for it - but it's not at all true - with Sag rising, I like to fling things everywhere, and I can't read or find my messy written notes or files half the time. Life's too short to spend putting things in order. Unless I've decided to give up my dreams of doing anything in this lifetime... then I do console myself by putting order in my papers.&#38;nbsp; &#60;img src=&#34;/my-plugins/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/icon_smile.gif&#34; /&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>Dawn on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Mimi mottet: You just made my day! OMG that was funny!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lee: you too!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have moon in Virgo and I can't help but notice smells in other peoples houses. And when someone is oblivious to just common sanitation (one needs to go above mere cleanliness sometimes) it just drives me beserk! Case in point: I lived with someone once who never washed their vegetables, handled raw food and let it drip all over stuff and then touch all the knobs on the stove and other surfaces. They left their dishes in the sink for a week and wouldn't wash them, and lived in absolute squaller in their room. DISGUSTING! I would run around cleaning with Lysol sheets as soon as i could. Also things like a disorganized placement of things in the dishwasher, knives sticking up etc. Just unacceptable! But ironically, I clean in spirts but when I do it's thorough. And my desk might look like a mess, but I know where everthing is!
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<title>Lunalie on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Wow you guys have such interesting stories! :P I guess you can say this is a pretty funny topic although I've noticed with so many Virgos in my life that they're such clean/organization freask - well it's either one or the other!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lee: I relate to your husband lol! I'm a shower spaz myself. I soap myself twice or three times per shower. I will even shower twice a day if I want. And recently since going freelance, I've been showering every morning to wake me up and get me in &#38;quot;work mode&#38;quot; and later at night so I can sleep better. &#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>neptunian on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have Venus in Virgo and strange patterns when it&#38;nbsp;comes to cleanliness.I really hate dirt like left over food and snotty tissues left&#38;nbsp;lying around.That is just nasty. But,I am a Libra Sun so I am relatively lazy&#38;nbsp; and do not like&#38;nbsp;to get my hands dirty though, so sometimes&#38;nbsp;I leave deep cleaning till the last minute until I am just disgusted and cannot function.&#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have moon/mars in Cancer so I hoard.But the funny thing is clutter tends to make me agitated and I cannot think straight if it is visible.When I am depressed it gets very bad.Hence my need to keep clearing it a little at a time.My closet is usually stuffed, but&#38;nbsp;I feel okay if my counter tops are orderly.I absolutely cannot stand filth when I am sick.Clean sheets make me instantly happy especially when they smell good.They are a neccessity when I am not feeling well or else I get moody and depressed and lash out at anyone near me.But...you guessed it...I always wait till last minute to do laundry!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;All in all, I think other people's mess is less tolerable to me.I always find myself asking how they can live like that.I have a girlfriend with three little ones and her&#38;nbsp;apt. is just always grimy.I sometimes can't stand to be there.Something about the children being there makes me so uneasy although that is probably one of the reasons it is difficult for her to keep it clean.I don't want to offend her by offering to clean up, but I do find myself judging her for that.Okay..now I'm rambling.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>mimi mottet on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>mimi mottet</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I must be a study in contrasts.&#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;sun/moon/venus/mars in&#60;img src=&#34;/my-plugins/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/virgo.gif&#34; /&#62;, &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm a neat messy pack rat. I know where all my shit is, my house is clean, and I&#38;quot;m a pack rat that has everything organized, I collect stuff like vintage buttons, weird shit to use in my art projects someday. It's all organized and I can get my hands on it at any time.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have 10 things going at once. I'm an info junkie. I have 2 dogs (small and relatively odor free) and I wipe them down after they come in from their walk with lavendar doggie wipes. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My house is lived in. It's a busy house. I don't invite people over much unless they are understanding and i hate it when people ambush me and show up unanncounced. This is my space and I'll live in as I damn well please. So keep your judgements and b.s. out of my orbit.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hubby does go on tangents while I'm sleeping and cleans up the kitchen counter (ground Zero) and then I get pissed off when I can't find anything.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have a very sensitive sense of smell and can smell a bad fart from the other end of the house even before it enters my airspace at the opposite end. I have a very expensive air purifier that gets rid of anything in the air not necessary to human life. I'm a creative soul and I will not apologize for it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am so house proud that I put Martha Stewart to shame, (without the felony conviction.)&#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Oh and to further complicate things, I'm a certified Feng Shui consultant. &#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My dogs have taught me not to sweat the small stuff. If the rugs aren't vacuumed it's not the end of the world. &#38;nbsp;Keep it clean, keep it smelling nice, keep your piles tidy and categorized.. That's my&#38;nbsp;&#60;img src=&#34;/my-plugins/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/virgo.gif&#34; /&#62;&#38;nbsp;brand of Obsessive/Compulsiveness. Everybody is different you know, even sun signs.
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<title>Lee on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have Jupiter, Mars, Saturn and my MC all in Virgo. I clean my house every week. Usually it takes me 2 days I pick 2 things the first day and then I do the rest of it the next day. Same routine every week. I do laundry every other day and rarely ever leave anything in the dryer and never in the washing machine. I have to fold things as soon as they are dry because I hate wrinkles. I guess chaos doesn't work for me. I can't function in dirt. We never leave dishes in our sink. I wipe my kitchen counters off constantly. and sweep all the time. My Father in laws dog stayed with us for a week last year. OMG I freaked because I didn't want dog smell in my house. I think if it were my own dog probably wouldn't of done that so bad. LOL but someone elses pet made me nuts!&#38;nbsp; &#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;My husband has Sun, moon, saturn and AC in Virgo. He's a shower spaz. LOL Probably showers 2 times a day. Washes his hands compulsively. Which I can't argue with. I respect a man who is clean. I couldn't&#38;nbsp; handle any unpleasant smells. I'm the type that walks by someone in the store and gag because they smell like a whore house, or they just don't even cover up the stank that is going on. I am really obvious about it to. I can't help it. It's like take a friggin shower will ya? LOL&#38;nbsp; Cologne doesn't hide the fact that your ass is DIRTY! haha&#38;nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;By the way my husband is a total pack rat. I have to force him every 6 months to give up things he just doesn't need or use. That's probably the biggest problem between the 2 of us. I won't let him clean my house either. I'd probably kill him hahahaha&#38;nbsp; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>StarGirl on "Virgo the Neatfreak - do you relate?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have a Virgo Moon in H9 which is an indication of teaching skill. This is something I feel I was born to do and I'm at college working towards it now. I also have Saturn (the teacher planet) conjunct Ascendant and Sun in 3rd, the 3rd/9th axis is an academic one so when I speak of my Virgo Moon it relates to occupation in my case.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's 8 degrees Virgo, not sure what that degree represents. It's the most elevated planet and the nearest to the M.C arrow. It's aspects to other planets are: Square Uranus H1, trine Neptune) I am critical of all media forms and cannot 'just' read a book or watch a film I have to devour it's meaning. &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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