"A Florida teenager was charged Wednesday with murdering his grandmother by stabbing her 93 times and shooting her in the head with a crossbow.

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"Authorities say Smiddie decided to kill his grandmother to make his uncle suffer. They say he originally plotted to kill his uncle, but decided to kill Helfrich instead.

"He decided, 'Well, I'll kill my grandmother instead so that my uncle has to live with the death of his mother for the rest of his life,' " Sheriff Grady Judd of the Polk County Sheriff's Department said..."

Fox news

What should we do with him?  Is this the mother's fault too?

"Police say Smiddie killed his grandmother in her bedroom in the home they shared. Then, in a bizarre twist. he locked the door and waited for his uncle to get home. The teen then ate dinner and watched television with his uncle, who had no idea his mother lay dead in her bedroom..."

I don't know what should be done with him, but if you stab someone 93 times... there is so much H A T E involved, you're screwed either way, for the rest of your life.

I think, in both these recent "incidences", the reactions of these kids is just a reflection of the way they view violence. It's a game. I don't believe they understand... fully comprehend, what they are doing or have done.

It's like a video game. Bang, bang, you're dead, now lets go do something else for a while...

I think you have hit on something McKenna in regards to the violence.  I think kids see so much gore and violence at an early age is does something to them ---  I mean seeing people gruesomely killed over and over again either through movies, tv or video games is HARMFUL, especially when your brain, emotions, psyche is not fully developed.   (Personally, once you are fully developed I don't see why one would want to see such gore).

 Hopefully, this issue get figured out and we learn how to stop it.

I'm not justifying what he's done, but his uncle might've been an a$$hole. Sounds like he's hated his uncle for some time now.

But wow, 93 time?! Exhales:.

Brutal and aweful!

Not solvible!

There are no solutions, what's done is done!

Poor Grandmother!

We're all connected and as one, that boy will suffer the exact same as his grandmother, not through someone doing it to him, but the moment his emotions open up and he feels compassion, which will happen in death and in the afterlife if not in this life, and then BOOM, he will be haunted by what he did. I feel sorry for him in that sense. He made the mistake of thinking he's a seperate entity. And thinking he could do something like that to someone who was innocent! Big mistake! We're all one! When he killed her, he killed a part of himself, and that is the karma... already happened...

@RisingLibra-AriesSun,

How Pisces Moon of you!

I wonder if this kid was on steriods??  93 times?  And then he sat down to dinner?

Really hope they never let him out. 

I agree with McKenna and I hinted as much on the other thread: these kids are so 'programmed' by 'kill' video games and violence in movies etc they almost don't relate their actions to real life.

But these two kids in particular seem to be simply lacking any moral sense at all, and to have to have an evilly violent streak which revels in their murderous actions. I doubt either can be cured.

I would restrict access to computers, video games and adult movies for all kids, as I think the present remgime of kids having computers and TVs in their bedrooms to keep them quiet is having a totally destructive effect on the minds of too many of them. But we aren't going to see the hordes of feckless, permissive and absent parents enforcing that, are we?

The genie is out of the bottle, and he can't be put back :(

@FieryTaurus

But trueeeeee

I remember a time, as some of you do too, when a concerted effort was made not to expose kids to violence in any form. If something bad were to happen, their eyes were covered by whoever was closest- it was a GIVEN, & certainly nothing was ever discussed in front of children.

Why people think that you can sit a kid down in front of a box & pump this crap into them for hours, days, weeks, months... YEARS on end, & expect there to be no fall out, is idiocy.

& now everyone is "shocked"... "horrified"... that the above & similar is occurring.

The absolute stupidity of the Human Race is astonishing to me.

Jesus Christ... My knee jerk reaction is to say just give people like this the electric chair...

I see children all the time, and it's true, they're so desensitized now. I watched a movie with gory scenes in it and someone's kid was sitting next to me. I covered my eyes and winced at the gory parts. After the movie, I asked the kid, were you scared? And the kid was totally bored looking, and said, no, that wasn't scary at all.   I mean, it's just ridiculous how little emotion they feel after observing many violent scenes. It doesn't mean anything to them. It's really sad.

If the argument is nature vs nurture, I vote nature. I think people like this have a genetic predisposition and they've been around all along. But now their crimes get broadcast to the wide world within seconds.

I grew up hearing about the one psycho in my town. He had chopped his mother into 27 pieces. When his neighbor heard something going on, and asked him, he said he was butchering a pig.

Nature and Nurture both happen.

Obviously sometimes nature is simply that people are sometimes born with brains that don't have the same sensors that we do. They simply can't feel anything.

Nature and nurture feed off one another.

If someone is like this by nature, at best we can nurture the person to second-guess his/her decisions by realizing the consequences (murder, imprisonment, etc).

But even if such person is socialized successfully, perhaps they just eff people over in a more socially acceptable way? I'm thinking about Bernie Madoff.

To me, this is the definition of pure evil. You cannot save such a person. You can only hope you don't cross them.

@Dorchid - me and my psychologist father agree on this one with you. There really isn't much you can do for people if they are biologically incapable of being nurtured.

it's freaky and sad.

Glenn - I totally agree with you. As a kid, I was not allowed to watch violent TV or movies. My parents monitored what I was exposed to, and looking back, I'm glad they did. I have to stop myself from saying something when I see CHILDREN (seriously, like elementary school level) with their parents at an R-rated movie. What are they thinking??

As for this case, the boy murdered the grandmother out of SPITE for his Uncle. That to me, makes him even more of a psychopath. I do not believe this person can be rehabilitated. He needs to be removed from society for life.

And why was I not surprised this happened in Florida? So many freaky things happen in this state. I grew up near Polk County. Redneck-ville.

This happened right in my backyard, so to speak.  I heard that at first, he was going to kill his Uncle like that.  Then he decided to kill the Uncle's mother, so that "he would have to live the rest of his life knowing that his mother was dead".  Whatever that means.  BUT, my first impression of that, intuitively, is that, he is extremely angry at his Uncle for something.  Maybe sexual molestation?  Who knows.  Just my thoughts.

OMG...I have no words!