At What Point Are You Fully Responsible For Your Life?

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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    Being steeped in astrology, I feel the Saturn return is the cut off.  If you are still blaming your parents for your problems @ 30 years old, I think you missed the boat.

    Don't get me wrong! I think parents cause their kids problems, mine certainly did. However, there comes a point where the problems are yours, and yours alone to deal with, regardless of how they came about.

    At what point do you consider a person fully responsible for their life?

    Assuming you have come to this point, at what point did you assume total responsibility for yourself and your life?

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    ps - I took responsibility for my life when I was 15...gladly!

     
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    Caroline (wall)       Gemini Sun Gemini Moon Libra Rising

    Saturn Return definitely.

     
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    CArRiE (wall)    Pacific NW   Aries Sun, Scorpio Moon & Rising

    I remember a rebellious period during those angst ridden teen-age years that I blamed my problems on anyone but myself- but that ended when I was 17 when I put on my big girl pants moved 3,000 miles away and finished high school.

     
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    FieryTaurus (wall)    Nebraska   Libra Asc, Sun in Taurus, Moon Aries

    By the time you're 25 your brain is 100% developed, LOL! I'd say 25.

     
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    Nota Rikon (wall)    Tejas   Libra/Scorp/Leo

    Agree

     
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    denise (wall)    illinois   scorpio sun, gemini moon, libra rising

    Love this post.  A few months before my 16th bday I got a full time job in a Candle Factory ($1.50 an hr), transferred from my boring public school to a private school (paid my own tuition, books, etc) downtown (chicago), paid for my own clothes and since I left the house at 7:30am and did not get home till 9:30pm I mostly lived on junk food.

    I did not get an allowance and did not expect one.  It seemed normal to me to pay my own way and I enjoyed the feeling of being a young adult.  Moved out just before my 18th bday.

    My 26 year old son is the opposite.  Still at home and is very immature.  He and I will both be having saturn in scorpio returns this year and I am praying he will get it together.   We will be moving from our house this summer and I really need to have my own place and let him sink or swim.

     
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    Liz (wall)    Ottawa   Sun Libra Asc Libra Moon Gemini

    I started working at 17 so that was a good start but I think my saturn return and only now is it coming together fully in my brain. I did a meditation for when I was 24 and my energy was like a teen so I feel I was slow to maturity.

     
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    Jennifer (wall)       "My horns hold up my halo."

    Agree with Elsa, Caroline, Nota.  Working, working, working on it...ALL of it...

     
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    Glenn (wall)    rural Illinois   scorpio sun , virgo ascendant , pisces moon , chinese : water rabbit

    18.... but if you have the "gonads / guts" , then earlier.

    I had no clue what I wanted to do with my Life at age 18 , so I joined the military. Stayed there for 20yrs and retired.

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    Arantxa Sanchez Vicario: Parents blew fortune

    "Former tennis star Arantxa Sanchez Vicario said in a book published Tuesday that her parents lost an estimated $60 million in career earnings through mismanagement.

    The 40-year-old Sanchez Vicario said her parents were obsessed with her tennis career and controlled most aspects of it..."

    Just ran across this.  Seems related to me. If your parents are micromanaging your life...fire em!

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    wow

     
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    Blessed Place (wall)    UK   Sun/ Ven/ Merc in Cap, Moon in Taurus, Virgo Asc. Chinese: wood Rooster

    I left home just turned 19 and never went back for long after that - I roomed the first year in university (we had to) but after that had a flat share the following year (partly with FGLove) and then my own place halfway into my third year. I've very rarely shared with anyone since.

    That doesn't mean I didn't and don't still blame my Ma for a lot of the ongoing shit in my life, as regulars here will no doubt be aware!

    I feel very sorry for young people nowadays who can't afford to leave the parental home - it's unnatural to me to live with parents once you have a sex life (for example). Less sorry for those who WON'T leave the family next, due financial subsidy and convenience!

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    Well, Jilly, I bet there were signs. She didn't want to stand up for herself and then this.

     
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    Kashmiri (wall)       Earth on Fire

    I have always felt responsible and that I wanted to be in control of my life since I was 2 and took off on my parents at a fairground. I recall the feeling so clearly: not scared, not lost (like they claimed I was). Just this: I wanted to see the horses. I went to see the horses. It didn't cross my mind to ask for permission! I didn't even feel 2, LOL.CapricornMoon

    I had my first paid employment when I was 10/11 doing farm work. Then childminding (sometimes 8 hour days in the summer time). On to dishwashing at 14 and then other jobs...I left home at 16 and never went back. Ever.

    My Dad's Sun is in my 10th, and my Mum's Sun is in my 4th. That is the axis on which my Pluto/Mars-Venus opposition falls. Intense power struggles with my parents that I was deadset on winning. Who knows.

    My parents and I have a lot of very tight synastry, involving the Nodes, luminaries, and angles. I am just like them, in that they want to run their own lives, too.

     
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    Korellyn (wall)    Yukon, Canada   gemini sun, cancer moon & rising

    Hrm... I don't think I've ever blamed my parents for my problems.  My mom did the best she could and my dad didn't really give a shit, but my problems are still MY problems, ya dig?

    Off to ponder the idea that people can go through life like this.  Bizarre.

     
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    music4am (wall)    Wonderland or Land of Wonder??   Cancer/Cappy/Cancer w/plenty of Pluto

    I took responsiblity for my own choices in high school and was fully on my own by the time I left for college.  I don't blame them for anything, they did the best they could with what they had.  

    I don't really hold a popular opinion on this, but think that most people can be fully responsible when they choose to be.  It's about the perspective that you have and how that's serving you or not.
    Angie 

     
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    starkttn (wall)       Gemini Rising, Pisces Sun, Taurus Moon

    The day they realize they are alone and have to live their life on their own. Age-wise, it depends on experiences. Some parents really do the best they can, so there is no reason to blame them. And for others, with genuinely screwed up parents, like when a parent asks you for money age 8, well, your eyes sort of open and you never look back. I realized it was up to me to get out of dodge or I'd live my life like that because plenty of people do. So I did. Did I take on way more that wasn't mine, yup, and I got used to it until I learned to draw some boundaries. Still learning.

    I agree that we have to fully accept responsibilities, but there are times when it is not your fault at all if people heap crap on you, and you have no responsibility to take that on. You have a responsibility to yourself in that regard.

     

     
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    julianwinter (wall)    New Hampshire   Scorpio, Pisces, Cancer

    18 for me.

     
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    Josephine (wall)    Florida   Virgo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Cap ASC

    I think the Saturn Return is a fair timetable to take full responsibility for your life.

    For me, it happened in my early '20s. I had gone thru a traumatic experience that I could have let affect me the rest of my life, but I made a conscious decision to "get over it" and not let it define me. Everyone handles these things differently, but that was my choice.

     
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    egiyablu (wall)    somewhere over the rainbow   Gem

    I've felt that I have a responsibility to get over the problems given to me by parents. I feel I'm in the middle of this spectrum. Definitely hope to be worked through them by 30 though. :(

    On the other hand, I defiinitely have things that are my own responsibility. I've taken those on for a while. Probably since 14 or so.

     
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    brizo (wall)    midwest   Taurus/Aries/Gemini

    I'm fully responsible for my life and have been from a young age (I married at 17).  But other people are responsible for damaging me in my formative years.  I can only go forward from there and try not to inflict more damage myself from being messed up.

    Hope that didn't sound utterly whiny.

     
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    Michele (wall)    Sub-arctic   Cancer Sun / Leo AC / Cap Moon

    When I had children. Though it's a steep learning - and forever kind of - curve. It's not just about you anymore.

    Another one, I think, is when you start feeling responsible in larger ways, for a larger spectrum of people. People you may not even know.

     
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    SaDiablo (wall)    Planets in Signs and Houses  

    I don't know about for other people.  I definitely think that if you're in your 30's and blaming mommy/daddy for shit that happened (or didn't happen) when you were a child then there's definitely something in your water.  *smiles*

    I took responsibility for my life somewhere in my early 20's (21, 22, something like that).  That doesn't mean I wasn't still working through some of the fucked-up shit from my childhood, but that I'd stopped blaming anyone but me for being where I was.  Ain't no one in this world ever made a choice for me but me.  ;)

     
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    newsl4ng (wall)       Libra-Sun/Gemini-Rising

    Around 18 when I left home for University. I ended up transfering to a school closer to home afterwards, but my attitude has pretty much stuck. I'm 22 now. The only thing I don't believe I'm responsible for at this time of my life, is owning property. And that's just because I'm a student with a lot on my plate. I work as well so more than half of my income goes straight to my line of credit and to contributing to my cellphone bill.

    Generally though, I'm stupidly hard on myself so I take responsibility for things even when I shouldn't!

     

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