Good question.  When you find out let me know.  I have natal Moon [on the ASC] @ 24 Cancer opposite Sun @ 24 Capricorn [yes a fullmoon baby] and although I've lived this axis all my life I still don't have a handle on it.  The rest of my chart is mostly oppositions as well and before I shed this mortal coil I'd like to be able to say "Oh I get it."  I read somewhere that since you have access to the qualities of both signs, take the best part of each sign [conscientious nurturer for instance] and run with that instead of allowing one or the other to dominate.  Always easier said than done at least in my experience.

Hmm. I am gonna meditate on this one but in the meantime let me say I am baffled by capricorn energy, totally. It makes me uncomfortable. I am thinking of my first cap friend, we met in astrology class -- she is leo rising, sag moon, tons of aquarius and cap sun

So maybe it's not even the cap sun... it took me so long to be able to handle her energy and wow she is soooo bossy. And I am not :) Super not. Is that cap? To be bossy?

As for the cap moon, it's a serious moon, right? I appreciate that--

Interesting your cancerian friend doesn't cry because I am such a cryer and have cancer stellium--

And I would say the cap suns are def the boss!
They seem to me to be so damn forceful - nothing subtle there-

well, m.p. as a Sagittarius ASC I can say (without fear of persecution, ha ha) Sag is BOSSY AS HELL.:)

I do know some about Capricorn...my last two serious partners have been Capricorn Suns. Male Capricorn Suns are a tough nut to crack...too bad I like a challenge in love.

Capricorn is a bit of a loner, and can come across as quite cool. A good poker face. Ability to take on responsibility. Then there is the whole idea of "growing younger as one grows older" which I have attributed to an ability to roll with the punches when the chips are down: Cap knows things can get super shitty and can find some sort of blueprint for a plan in the midst of the rubble.

But Capricorn can also be so tender and loving when in their comfort zone. Pleasures enjoyed can be quite simple, which is a relief...just good quality time. I think Caps are very good with one on one communication (if you can convince them your troubles are genuine and not just belly-aching). I've heard Caps are prone to depression, which I believe is true. Ruled by saturn, can you say weight of the world???

And now...your thoughts on Cancer my friend??

PS. My Cancer friend has Saturn conjunct her ASC...maybe that's why she doesn't cry? 

Not sure if this helps...my daughter's Rising is right on the cusp of Cancer/Leo. Her Sun/Venus/Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/NN are all Capricorn with Moon/Mars in Taurus.

She's a certifiable alpha female, Genghis Khan in a dress, damn the torpedos and the rules, full speed ahead. Takes what she wants, assumes leadership without a vote and leaves a wake of wreckage behind. Her saving grace is a heart of gold and somehow, generosity.

julian we always seem to be double-posting, it's funny

Wow, that is curious.

Kash: your comments make me think that what drives me nuts is the sag/leo combo -- perhaps not the cap at all... !! Or maybe all three: bossy plus being a leader? Makes me run for the hills. I mean, I can tolerate and be patient with anyone in the short term, but give me mellow and non controlling in day to day life (talking about friends here; romance is another story)

As for cancer, I am one (sun, mercury, mars) and am not objective abt myself. My current/former/whatever is cancer and our suns are conjunct. Also have a male cancer friend. I guess they are as moody as I am --
Takes me a long time to figure them out maybe -- less transparent.

The stereotype about being "sneaky" or "secretive" may be true....there's always something going on behind the scenes with them. May not be something bad, but it's something.

Also remembering now my young niece who is cap sun, sag rising, cancer moon in the 12th. Couldn't stand her until I saw that cancer moon. Again, the extreme bossyness--

Reading back my comment, I see what a misanthrope I am. Or just really picky. A good friend of mine has two kids who I love to death and I always tell them that they're the only kids in the world that I like-- they don't believe me and think it's funny.

Here is my contribution:

tag  Cancer vs Capricorn

thanks elsa! wooo that blog has quite the title, ha ha

One thing I know for sure about Cancer is they do not like being pushed around...not that anyone does, but- they are not going to be your bendy toy a la Gumby!  Maybe it's the Cardinal aspect. I can see your dislike of bossy.

Weirdly, my Cancer pals don't cook, but they all share a common love of being cozy (soft clothes, nice grub, heavy quilts )

I don't have any planets in Cancer but I do have two 4th/10th House oppositions. I would allow myself to be mothered the rest of my life, if I didn't have this innate fear of abandonment.

Maybe that's a Cancer/Capricorn axis issue?

Just read Elsa's link.

A "good" cancer should be able to make you feel at home, somehow, something in the energy. Doesn't have to be home-cooking but some kind of tasty enclosing. Like they hug you without touching-- or. their home hugs you when you come in. Womblike, 4th house, the mother--
Their whole being can do this to you--
When I'm around the ex, I can't stop touching him, just want to squeeze and burrow--

I think I need to meet a REAL capricorn so I can truly grasp their energy. Caps in the wild! Where do I look?

I have a Capricorn friend who I have a Grand Cross with in Pluto aspects.  We butt heads all the time, he thinks he is the parent (or at least is teaching me all the time) and I am the child.  I think in our relationship at least he is the one who foists himself on me and I am the one who defends myself and refuses to budge.  I talk about this alot :/.

But yeah, Cancers don't like to be bossed around a lot or persuaded about who we should be.  I actually have a very persuasive aunt with a Cancer sun who tries to convince me of something because she feels it is good for me.  I also frequently come on strong with the advice about what is good for someone (especially about where they should eat :) ).  Usually we boss people because we are somehow persuaded you need it. And mama knows what's best.

here is our synastry which I posted before:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/drivesontoegypt/synastrywith.gif

Nonetheless, I think Capricorn is usually the boss because of their leadership capabilities anyway, while Cancer isn't into taking the advice they don't want.

Oh, I won't be pushed around. Probably won't be aggressive about it, but I will retreat/leave/avoid/space out/be gone.
I am working really hard to be present these days and not to stay too long in my shell

Kash, your cancerian friends sound like me, the cozy thing....

Mothering/fathering IS what I want in my primary relationship. I want to receive it. Not sure if I do it though - I don't feel like I mother others.

I wonder too if that is a cancer/cap theme

For me, planets in the 4th/10th will give you that house flavor. Those houses are empty for me-- and don't you have a moon square? 1st to fourth? Well, there ya go-- abandonment staring you in the face--

Isn't it worth the risk though?

One of my good friends is a Cancer - she has that cozy thing DOWN haha.   Too bad I live 600 miles away now. (Man she is stubborn too.)

ahhhh yes totally worth the risk. it's true. maybe you don't feel motherly (if i interpret what you're saying properly) but you are very considerate about other people. maybe i want it to but am too afraid of it..? I do have very motherly friends...in fact one helped me re-stuff the quilt my mum hand stitched for me...we actually did that today. so i do accept mothering, i just worry i'm asking too much (to my friend's credit: she thinks i'm nuts). She has Venus in Cancer.

i do have 1st house moon square 4th...also square pluto/10th. i was always going to be left behind by my parents. i remember once they did leave me: at a swimming pool, took everyone else home and took them a while to figure out one kid was missing. "oh you were just sitting there waiting" they said. I wrote about it in my diary (i was 8)

 "EVERYONE FORGOT ME AT THE POOL. WEIRD!!!" my parents found parenting totally overwhelming, no kidding 4 kids in 5 years, craaazy!

I think the fear goes deeper than that though, my North Node is in my 10th, but doesn't aspect anything at all--nothing. I went to past -life type counseling in the past. the mother/father issue loomed large and immediate.

Do any of you find that Cancers have trouble growing up/leaving the nest?

The last three guys I have been intrested in all have mars in cap.  ugh.  Makes me worry about myself a little because cap mars is usually attracted to "project girls." you know...fixer uppers, girls with issues, crazeeez.  They'll buy you flowers though. 

I think cancerians can and do nest-- wherever they are

Trouble leaving the nest? How about always holding onto and sentimental about the past

It was hard for me to leave home even though home wasn't good. I left at 18 for college and cried every night for a week , and then was okay.

Maybe it's not the "nest" -- it's MOM who is so hard to leave. Was so hard to leave mom

"thanks elsa! wooo that blog has quite the title, ha ha"

That is a "tag" not a post... there are a slew of posts on this topic that go way back.

I've noticed that Cancers are MASTERS of guilt ie boy can they make you feel guilty. They are soft and squishy and sentimental.

Cappys don't take praise too well & seem really uncomfortable with it - but secretly crave it.

I've posted before about my hubs' dysfunctional siblings and their spouses, who all have the Sun or Moon in Cancer.  They're the messed-up kind of Cancer, though, not the "typical" kind.  He's a Cap.  He said he always felt like an outsider around them...he isn't into astrology at all, so he doesn't know that this is why.  They don't get each other at all, and the psycho nutball SIL he never got along with has her Moon closely opposite his Sun.

I have no Cancer or Cap planets, and no 4th/10th planets...but my IC/MC axis is 16 Cancer/Capricorn.  Their Moons and hub's Sun fall into my 4th/10th houses.  I definitely think that's why they tried to suck me into their drama, but I tried my best to stay away from it.

thanks elsa. i re-read them and liked them all over again. i got a little hung up on the title of the first post that appeared.

moonpluto-yes I think it's really difficult for Cancers to leave their mothers. This seems to be a trait across the board...even those with difficult relationships with their mothers, the connection seems very string, for good or for ill.

Notariem I don't know if I've ever met anyone with Mars in Capricorn. I wonder if there is something about your Libra that attracts them?

I have Cancer moon... and I pretty much act much more Cancer than I do Aries. :P

I don't get along with Capricorn - at all.

I would think the clash between Cancer and Capricorn would be due to their cardinality. Neither of them want to be control but both want to control.

The thing about Cancer, kitchens and food is true - well at least for me. I spend time cleaning my kitchen thoroughly and I LOVE to cook for people I care about. :) I've also been told that my place or I myself am pretty cozy :) My ideal living condition would be all about the cozy and the huggable :) But is that because I have a Venus in Taurus?

With the Capricorns I meet... I always wonder... "When does the stick up your ass come out?" Sorry pardon my Mars-ruled chart offensiveness :P 

I think the C/C axis is the worst opposition in astrology. I tend to think of those signs as being SO opposite from each other in priorities that I don't know how they get along. Capricorn loves work, lives for work, thrives on it. Family and being home snuggling on the couch with a good meal and TV, not so much. Cancer loves family and home, lives for it, thrives on it, and does enough work to be able to go home. The Cancer end is NOT going to be okay with Capricorn never ever being home because they are at work. I can see this pairing working if the respective C's agree that they are okay with the other being obsessed with one domain. Like if the Cancer was the housewife who spends all day cooking and cleaning but somehow miraculously doesn't mind if hubby doesn't come home till 9 p.m. because he's providing that lifestyle for her. (So 1950's stereotype...). But Cancers aren't really too cool with NOT having the personal interaction in order to have the lifestyle, so odds are that won't happen.

Ugh. I'm glad this isn't emphasized in my horoscope. I always feel sorry for those with the C/C nodal axis, it's got to be SO hard on them to switch to the other side.

I can only speak about my own Capricorn (Sun,Mars,Venus, Mercury) struggles with fear and the burden of responsibilties...making it difficult to let go into the emotional end of the axis.  That stick up the ass is hard to take, (could'nt resist), for those around them, but it only comes out when/if they resolve their fear of rejection and looking stupid, childlike, inappropriate.

Varja: so true about the praise thing...it's excruciating....but I WANT it!

This is reminding me of my double leo sister who has north node in cancer (and aquarius moon) -- it seems like such a stretch for her to be nurturing but when she gets there wow wow wow
And her nn is in the 12th --

But oh my is she burdened. Can't remember what else is capricorn though besides her sn.... I know she has a prominent saturn and is VeRY career oriented, the breadwinner in her family

Hey guys!!  Moonpluto...I was reading your posts and thinking...this is what my friends and family mean by me being intimidating.  I am Sun, Mer.,Jup and Sat. in Cap. and Mars in Cancer (oh, that can be awful....so emotionally charged)and of course, Leo Rising... did you mean BOSSY!!  I now am more aware of this in myself and when I am going to speak my mind, if my advice is asked, I try to not be too intense.  But I can't help who I am....I am intense...I try to tone it down, I should say....

Kashmiri...you said such sweet things about Cappys...and they are so true...we are so over=responsible, but I think I am like a marshmallow inside...Venus Pisces.  But my moon is squared to my sun and so there have been those abandonment issues and always felt so out of sync with my siblings....they are definitely more air and lots of fire.

I have Pluto in my 1st house too so intense looks that scare people....I don't mean to...

I love Cancers, by the way,  a good friend of mine is a Cancer, another has Moon in cancer and yes, both of them sometimes can be a little dramatic emotionally, but I like it too.  One thing about this....I am not a telephone person, meaning...I hate the phone.  I have an old cell phone and can't remember to check it....I detest the intrusion of my privacy in some ways...but, they are telephone crazy...they call me everyday, at least once if not more.  I know for sure I would miss it if they didn't....they know it too.  I may put on an indifferent attitude, but I really like it about my Cancer friends...and Scorpios too, I might add. 

Interesting, DM. Thank God for that mars and venus in water lol

Also, I didn't realize that about the phone. I am a phone person selectively, depends on the person. My cancerian b/f is the king of checking in by phone. When we were on the outs, I missed those calls so much.

I hope my comments didn't seem harsh by the way abt capricorn. It's just my own experience with this one friend mainly, how hard it was to be friends with her, even though I did like her, thought she was a good, caring person. I think it was true for her too -- by being friends with me, she learned to be more sensitive to other people (this is what she told me) --

Always felt my 1st house pluto scared people too -- being told to smile all the time which of course makes me growl...

I can't imagine being bossy. What does it feel like?

I have been so used to delegating assignments to my siblings, my children, my friends....my favorite word used to be "NO" for my children....when they were young and they would ask me if they could spend the night somewhere, go to the mall or any other thing that I did not grow up with, I wouldn't even ask them anything about it....I would just say "NO".  That was way too severe as I think back on some things...My sentences when I am being bossy start with, "I will not, or I wont have, or No Way am I.....or You go do this, I have learned to add the please and thank you's.....when I was first doing that, my pleasees and thank yous came out sheepishly...they are much better.

I am not offended at all....I have a really good sense of humor so I can laugh at myself and am pretty self-deprecating at it at times.  My friends and I have treated each other with respect and kindness....it is with my sisters, unfortunately that my bossiness and full force of my dark capricorn comes out.  I hate it, too.  Or the mars in cancer...(problems with relatives) I used to get so emotional...crying and yelling....wasn't pretty. 

Hmm. I am gonna take this as a "bossy" lesson. Seriously. Cancer gal (me) needs that Capricorn power...

I think I do have it in me but I don't own it. And then I get scared after!

moonpluto i thought about this a lot today and had this thought: 

-nurturing---->building

-encouragement--->maintenance

This could be positive manifestations of this axis, eh? Also been thinking about my comment re: domestication within the relationship, how I hate it. Well, maybe I don't hate it, my opinions are very slippery these days, post break-up

My mum told me (yesterday!) she liked how much I cried and "carried on" when I was a kid...she said it was endearing. She apparently liked my spontaneous displays of crazy! She has an emphasis on Cardinal signs, they must aspect my Capricorn Moon...

You have moon in a t-square, Kash. That on its own tells you something important--

Btw, I'm sure you had your reasons for "carrying on"

No wonder you fear domesticity. You don't want a repeat of what you survived.

Can you tell I'm in therapy ;)

ha ha, you got me you lovely Cancer:)

''''I've noticed that Cancers are MASTERS of guilt ie boy can they make you feel guilty'''

I agree with this! But I wouldnt say that its guilt! I would say that they remind you to appriciate the good things that you have!  In a weird way :)

Well, I've got a Capricorn Sun and South Node in the 4th house, Cap on the IC, and Cancer on the MC with North node in the 10th and I'm still trying to make sense of it all.  Am I supposed to be organised and ambitious at home, and nurturing in the world?  All I know is that since I had my son I've grown into the emotional, nurturing side of myself, which didn't get much action before, and am a very conscientious mother in many ways.  I went back to college last year and it turns out that my tutor has his Sun in Cancer conjunct my MC. I've found him to be very nurturing and encouraging about my progress - he's also extremely intuitive about whatever I need at any given time to move my work on.  Guess I've just answered my own question!

My Cancer mother and I annoy the hell out of each other, but she never fails to make me laugh about something. Her way of disarming me? I find I also enjoy Cancerian comedians...Michael Keaton, Will Ferrill, Robin Williams.

Gary Larson Cartoon (sorry can't find image)

BIG women in a housedress in the background. Bunch of poodles in a huddle in the foreground.

"If we kill her, the pampering will end."

"If we kill her, the pampering will end"

That made me LOL for real. Even without the visual!