I was going to do a poll, but I couldnt figure it out.

So when you dont have a birth time, for determining the angles and houses do you?

use solar chart (sun as first house)

Ascendant at 12 am marking first house

or attempt to rectify the chart? and if so, what are some of your tricks for this?

Thanks,

trying to work out my genealogy, astrologically and fundamentally with all respectability and all that... 

guess i figured it out!

chami i believe it takes a professional to rectify a chart. the standard seems to be birth-time 12 midnight, from what i can see. but you can see where venus is, etc.

the tricky thing is the moon, because it moves so fast. So, if you know someone is born 22 october, it's Libra Sun. However you might check the ephemeris and see: 26 degrees Gemini for the Moon. That means at 00:01 (a.m.) of the 22 October the Moon is in Gemini. By the end of the day 24 hours later the Moon will be in Cancer. You can still have fun seeing what kind of aspects to the chart the person has with the slower moving planets, though! 

I'll mess around with times of birth and try to figure out what ascendants could come up, but a 12:00 chart is just as inaccurate as any other, I figure. As for putting sun in the 1st house- well I figure the chart will be as acurate as any horoscope in the newspaper (those usually assume Sun-1st) which is usually not very accurate.

 Having to guess time of birth drives me crazy!

Hey kash, my birthday is October 22 and my moon is in Gemini.

that's hilarious! my dad has the same bday as you, but his moon is in taurus.:)

That's funny, because my moon is 1 Gemini so an -almost- situation like the one you gave as an example. (No Taurus in me, though. )  *waves* to kash's dad.

If I know the person enough, I attempt chart rectification. Keyword = attempt. I don't always feel confident about the results though.

I put it at noon and see how it feels. Let's say I'm looking up a guy for a friend... I'll ask questions so we can get a handle on his moon and rising.
Using your intuition and asking the right questions, one can figure this out and then narrow down a birthtime.

I mean, scorp rising feels totally different than sag rising or libra rising....

thanks moonpluto, that resonates with me.

Try it sometime if you haven't already--

Same with the moon sign. Ask the right questions and you'll get there....

Um, beats me. Sometimes I just go with a 6 a.m. time, other times I try to loosely rectify, but I am by no means a pro at that. I do a halfassed version of "what seems likely knowing what this person's personality is like."

I usually mess with the birth times until the Asc is as close to 0 Aries as I can get it, snap on the equal houses, and ignore where they fall -- just looking at sign and aspects.  Yeah, I'm weird. 

 i have used  both actual birth time (if i have it) and 12am if i dont.

ive never tried 6am . i will give it a go.

i have gemini rising though i just dont think i have anything at all in common with gemini im more scorpio pisces cancer  than anything ...but gemini.no

12am i come up with Cusp Libra/Scorpio rising

i think some charts are far more accurate than the actual birth time.

I had my chart rectified earlier this year.  The astrologer came up with a time 3 hours later than my mother had told me.  But since I was number four of five kids I reckoned it was quite possible she got it wrong (the hospitals in the UK don't record birth time). After I got over the initial shock I realised it made a lot more sense than the old chart I'd been working from.   The ascendant certainly fits better.

Everything I've read says to use 12PM (IE: noon) as the time if you don't have it. *ponder*