I am starting to have serious doubts about the mental health profession. I have seen some scary things being spouted by people in that profession lately. Here is the latest, and worst:  

"Could pedophilia eventually be decriminalized?

Some say that could happen if a group of mental health professionals have their way.

The group, known as B4U-Act, wants to change the guideline of standards on mental health put together by the American Psychiatric Association."

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/mental-health-group-seeks-understanding-of-pedophilia

We've been heading in this direction for years. I am not the least bit shocked.

Fuckin' A...

Ummm I love how minimizing the language is that they use.

“Stigmatizing and stereotyping minor-attracted people inflames the fears of minor-attracted people, mental health professionals and the public, without contributing to an understanding of minor-attracted people of the issue of child sexual abuse.”

I don't are about their feelings.  What about the children they harm? 

This is so sick.

If you're 40 and you dig little kids, you're mentally ill. Come ON. It doesn't even make biological sense. "Minor attraction?" What the fuck???? 

No. I'd fight this tooth and nail. You protect kids over people's lust. People might have these urges, but for the protection of society and the delicate souls and bodies of children, we need to curb those desires, even if it means castration, in my opinion. Hell no. Pedophilia is a crime. Rehabilitate if you want, but label it WRONG, not "just different." 

remember the greeks. they are the foundation of our civilisation. just sayin'.

In my humble opinion, paedophiles ARE NOT rehabilitatable !! They're NOT !

I'd rot in prison before I let the mental health profession excuse the behaviour of one of these sick bastards; were they to harm one of mine. Because I would destroy him. I don't care if they're mentally ill, they do not deserve mercy. Where was their mercy for the child they were ruining for life ? I'm sick and tired of people saying that kids are resilient, it's bullshit. Indelible marks are exactly that, and anyone who wants to behave so destructively as to cause them; doesn't deserve to live among decent people.

i'm sure the group who's banding together on this IS a bunch of pederasses. and, btw, that article doesn't look like real news to me. it's just some bunk from a guy who calls himself joe newby. JOE NEWBY, do you catch that???

ok. being bad here. but i want to note that in different societies and different times... this was perfectly normal. and we have no measure of how this affected youth. because youth, or childhood, is actually a fairly recent construct, in western society specifically. historically speaking, what we consider a child now, was a functioning adult-level person. that's the way it was.

Note: i am not condoning this in our times, becasue we just don't function that way. and childhood and youth are fiercely protected so... not good to be fucking with their heads when we have created a structure that doesn't allow it. I'm just saying, for the sake a full discussion... That past times were very different.

My psychologist Father was just telling me about this.

Sickening. He's so pissed.

I mean, I understand that historically, it happened. But was everything that happened in history really good and healthy? Not really.

I think that children are very impressionable. As someone who has had stuff happen, I can say it robs a child of more than just simply "having sex or touching here and there".

Even at 14 or 16 or 17 just like at 6 or 8, it still matters.

I just Who-Ised the person behind this b4u-act website and the name on the account is listed as some well-known, convicted pedophile, man-boy lover guy. I'm not typing the name here, as I don't feel we need to attract that kind of crowd.

I'm not sure why I am on this... From this direction. I would have killed anyone who screwed with my babies. Seriously. Killed them dead.

I guess I'm feeling all intellectual. And just wondering how we've changed and why. I mean to say, what we consider sick, deplorable and wrong now was in some time and places perfectly natural.

Maybe I should just go back to university. Maybe something is going on in my 9th.

I certainly don't mean to argue or cause strife. I'm just in my brain wondering.

Also, that "language" is search engine language. That's why you keep seeing the words "minor attracted" over and over. It's Google code for perverts who want to find each other and band together. Congrats, you just hit the peder-ass jackpot.

@Michele - Just thinking about that happening to her makes me tear up.

That is my greatest fear in the whole world. Seriously. My parents were overprotective as hell and it still happened to me. 

I feel vulnerable as to how to protect her from it and I know that there really is little I can to do.

I am a rational person, but like you said... I'm pretty sure my Mars-Pluto would go insane. I have no idea how badly I would react in that situation. I know I was lose it.

yeah... i'm with you egi... and i felt the same way about my son, along with my daughter. children are so vulnerable in this world.  

i'm sorry about your experience, whatever it may have been. i had one when i was small.

as a parent you try so hard to be vigilant. and i was pretty freaking vigilant. my placemets probably speak to that.

there was one time where there was a possibility and i was all over that shit. very questionable daycare person. i have good intuition, so maybe that helped with the vigilance.

but one must not be paranoid either. i was always trying to find that balance. i am so  so so happy they are now young adults, strong and capable.

Definitely Pluto in Cappy. Talk about powerlessness.

One can make the case that kids will deal with life a lot better if they are taught from a young age to be strong and learn to look reality in the eye and fight in various ways, to learn to pick out and deal with the crazies instead of thinking it's a wrong, abnormal crime and be angry thinking they should be locked up and feeling victimized as walking targets. And if it happens, to deal with it in an effective manner and get help.

I know for sure I would have preferred having some more skills on hand rather than just being taught to yell and fight and call the police and tell to someone. The fuck that is going to do when he's five times my size? Or if it's a friend's creepy dad? Better just bring a knife and pop the asshole's balls or stab the bitch. But then I'd be in jail for assault? If it's not a crime, I can't have self-defense?

What happens when they are mini-adults as children? They act like children as adults. But tough and defensive when necessary. But if this continues, won't we have to become clannish and vigilantes when it comes to family and safety? And for the kids whose perpetrator is a family member? Does this decriminalize incest or sexual slavery too?

If we say it's not wrong to interrupt someone's development and core safety, then the burden is on the child's family and community to provide healing and resources to vulnerable children, and resources vary. That's putting the burden on the victim.

It's getting even worse daily over here in East Asia these days. It's so socially acceptable and expected to lust after and attempt to have sex with children that you have children walking around in stripper heels and almost no clothing and teenage prostitution is rampant and completely everywhere and just taken as a given and everyone acts like they love it. Ugh. This is so not what I was raised or believe the world should be. But everyone seems fine with it because it's about making money with what you've got, brains or body, or just to try to survive, and it's far worse in Southeast Asia, and if I say anything, I'm passed off as an old-fashioned frigid overprivileged bitch. Boggles the mind, angers my soul.

In my neck of the woods, the only way to stay safe is to be on the right side of a powerful man, but if you're at all independent, you're just asking for continuous abuse. If you're unlucky, too bad for you. So if you teach a child this, they wouldn't think there's a problem, ever. You just do things you have to do to get by. And they hate people like me who tell them life doesn't have to be like this. Because theirs is. And they keep it that way.

And people who seem okay with it seem to deal well. They have fully accepted that this is the way the world was and always will be, and somehow psychologically they can deal with it until they get into a world where this isn't the norm. We're moving back into a world where it's might makes right again. Reality, I guess.

It was understandable that children were sexualised and married off very young when life expectancy was not much more than 30 on average, but those days are long gone.

I do think we now both sexualise children far too young - especially girls - via commerce, advertising and pop 'culture', at the same time as extending 'childhood' way beyond what used to be the norm (mid-teens).

I also think we tend to make children way too scared of sex - we overdramatise any incident so that if a kid is abused even in a minor way by an adult they get far more emotionally screwed up than the situation may warrant, and that does them no service whatsoever (I'm not talking about rape, I mean fondling etc).

But it's very hard to find a happy medium, and the way kids think and feel about sex is out of most parents' hands anyway, given the way sexuality permeates the media 24/7. The situation in Asia as described above doesn't help at all either, since Western men can persuade themselves such sexual experiences are 'normal' by accessing them abroad.

In truth, the article cited just reinforces my sense that there is something a bit wrong with most psychiatrists and psychotherapists hahaha! They're either trying to make quite normal behaviour seem sick or perverse; or they're at the other extreme, trying to condone behaviour which is way outside society's usual acceptable parameters

just because it is decriminalized or minimalized in psychiatric literature  DOES NOT mean that the general population has to accept it

Here's a lady who sums up all these characters well:

http://annyjacoby.wordpress.com/tag/b4u-act/

Indeed, some cultures are different. I didn't even have to look for these links. No, Youtube is full of them. In some cultures, anything goes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h9Fdef_2B4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t3vfDhPTIk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DEw8TRSThs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsExiAbCk1A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hgKcFXfRA0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtfi0LGvYR8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr-vt2DTCFw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g_QwiYxvkY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzXXi7BCDOE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGgtdvzhoIo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4XH6R8G4Mw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x_I7tic_84&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1gZEmEcxg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpLpy4VSJXE&feature=related

The general population moves more towards acceptance everyday from what I can observe.  It is the age we live in now.

It will wind up very bad of course. Look at history.

Peadophilia is also condoned in some Muslim cultures (the Prophet Mohammed married a girl of 6 when over 50, overriding the wishes of her father, and consummated the marriage when she was 9 and he was 53, so this kind of thing has to be defended...). There are many - contemporary - websites online, citing imams condoning and giving express sanction to the practice of 'thighing' infants let alone children, and even sodomy of babies. I can post links but I think it would be inflammatory to do so since most are linked on broadly anti-Muslim sites. 

Western culture is unusual in condemning the practice of sexual relationships with minors, but it's undoubtedly enlightened to do so. Whilst Christianity has a long and regrettable history of rendering sex shameful, it can be proud of its recent record in attempting to shield children from sexual knowledge at least until their late teens.

As most adults should know, sex usually has far-reaching and seismic emotional repercussions at any age, and children are in no way ready for those.

They can move toward it all they want. I'm not budging on my stance about it (and several other things) and will continue to speak out against it.

Educate your children. Especially encourage them to think for themselves.

This is not right, period.

It's an individual choice about whether to fall in line with popular opinion or not (or even what seems to be popular opinion). Don't let anyone make you think otherwise.

There should open season on pedophiles.

Sickening, disheartning. when we cant reason we accept one more incompetency of the civilized human race.

The gov't that fails to protect the most innocent will fail to protect any of us.