2 or more years ago, my mom told my grandma a story about my ex. She said, "He's soooo nice, ma. I asked him if he would help Bananas do (whatever project), and he said, 'Mrs. B., I'll do whatever Bananas' heart desires.'

My grandma thought this was just fantastic, and proceeded to dig up this old story and tell it to me again this week, gushing about what a wonderful person this ex of mine must be and why did I break up with him?

I think it is highly amusing that neither of these two women, with their suns in Leo and their moons in Air signs, have thought to follow up on this story. 

Because the next obvious question, to me, would be:

"So did he work on the project?"

Well, no, he didn't. And that's what I don't get about the Leo ladies in my family. It almost seems like they would PREFER to be bullshitted. To them, love is a bunch of empty words - that Hallmark card with the big fat bouquet of roses on the cover, the one that says, "Dear Mother, You Mean More to Me Than Life Itself..." meanwhile the giver of said card has been acting like an asshole all week. 

If you're a Leo, or know one, are you easily smoothed over by words, meaningless words? Because I am not like this at all, and I'm the direct offspring of these women.

One of my sisters has Leo Sun, another is Leo Ascendant. With the Leo ASC (Gemini Sun, Moon in Pisces) nothing is perfect enough to actually "fall for."

But my Leo sister (Virgo ASC, Moon in Aries) falls for the biggest bunch of bullshit time and time again it almost makes the eyes roll out of my head. The guy she married dumped her one Christmas while she was pregnant and she went back to him. It's amazing to me coming from the same line of DNA how different we are in matters of the heart. 

Then again my 8th House Saturn Leo sits on top her Sun and she thinks I am "not as open" as her. If not supporting going back to the same asshole 25 times makes me closed, you can hang a "permanently closed" sign on my back. 

It's the Leo's seeming addiction to making a "project" out of a bunch of rugs.  Ugly truth that hurts as hell.

here.... (hehe i like those)

i am well... idealistic as all hell.  i cant help but think the best of people and expect the best possible outcome. it's not that i want to be bullshitted (bullshat?)... in fact i hate it.  it's just easy to do to me. rose colored glasses.. does cause for a lot of pain sometimes..

Leo likes the heart to be warmed.  Some require authenticity while others are fine with zapping it in the microwave. 

hey little lou, I'm dating a  at the moment. Gotta say...I love the Leo/Scorp combo! I hope I don't seem like I'm crapping on Leo because I dig them. 

I don't know if this wanting to be bullshat is a Leo thing or not...in the case of my sister I believe her (what *I feel are crazy; she is okay with) choices are based on a deep and brooding desire to love and be loved, and yes that is a very much a Leo thing...Leo=heart.

we double posted heart comments:)

jinx, you owe me a coke. :P

Leo Sun, Moon, ASC, Mercury, Mars

Hm... when I was a kid, I was awfully gullible. My cousins had fun exploiting this little detail. I did not like being bullshitted because I couldn't see through it. Now I'm a little better at it.

 Things like:

'Mrs. B., I'll do whatever Bananas' heart desires.'

"Dear Mother, You Mean More to Me Than Life Itself..."

Make me laugh because they are just so over the top yet at the same time I'd like to believe them. I believed these kinds of things were true for a long time. I'm very idealistic, see? Gets me in trouble sometimes.

There was a very cute, flirty Sag in highschool. Very romantic and dramatic guy. He'd flirt with all the girls. He used flattering, cheesy, but creative lines, and act like this larger than life persona to the point I wondered if it was how he acted all the time or if he was actually more 'normal'. (If you ever watch Ouran High School Host Club, he acted like Tamaki.) I couldn't take anything he said seriously. He said he wanted a harem of maids, LOL. It was really fun flirting back with him though. Drove me crazy trying to figure out if he was joking or being serious. Of course, he was a self-centered ass when it came to relationships.

I like being bullshitted, but knowing better now, do not expect to be off the hook if you've been acting like a douche.

Hm i have thought so long and hard about leos. I've had a weird and fair share of experience with leos. For good and bad.of my two best friends, one has her sun in leo, and the other has her sun in gemini, and moon/asc in leo

One of the worste friend experience I have ever was with a sun in leo- she was as bad as a leo can get typically- egotistical, selfish, manipulative, sex-crazed and the most concieted person I think I have ever met so far in my life.

I have a sun in cancer and a pisces moon so we are very different people...But there was something  'fun' about her that made me just decide to become freinds with her. I just figured to give her a chance because she seemed really eager to be friends, which was nice-At first she was a lot of fun but after a while I started to truly see how she worked. And not only did she like to be bullshited but she also like to bullshit other people. She would talk about God being the center of her life, and how nice of a person she was- she would constantly say how much love meant to her and on SO MANY occasions the actions she did were so opposite.
She cheated on this one boyfriend she had about 7 times, and then in right in the middle of a party she decided it was a good time to call him and confess- So everyone there had to sit and listen to her sob story. That drove me nuts.
Then one night she told one of mine and her (at the time) friends about how BAD of a boyfriend her boyfriend was to her.
She sat there and played with her hair and told her how gorgeous she was and acted out 'innocent friend' and told her how she needed someone new and better then him. We found out about 8 months later that her boyfriend had cheated on her with that "great friend".
She actually did this to two friends in the same week- we had this little group of friends who hung out a lot and after the boyfriends got introduced and comfortable they became part of the "family" too and everyone would randomly hang out and drink and party. No one really imagined they'd get cheated on.. ha. Just that particular week that leo went to two parties with her two best friends boyfreinds... and in my opinion sunk as low as a person can get. I think this particular leo is very insecure and needs a lot of attention to feel good about herself. She hated the fact that her friends were happy and she was not. so I guess she needed to prove her "worth" by saducing her "best friends" boyfriends into flattering her.    

So yeah, I think leos like to be bullshited. If they're either bullshiting themselves or other people are doing it for them- as long as its positive for them im pretty sure they like it.

When my sun in leo friends boyfriend broke up she begged me to tell her everything is going to be okay- to lie to her face basically. I would have rather have told he the truth/ But her exact words were "I just need someone to tell me everythings going to be fine."  And even though I did not think everything was going to be fine, she clearly wanted to be bullshitted. It could be like a psychological defense mechanism.

And my other best friend, I love her dearly, with the asc and moon in leo will fall for anyone who compliments her! Even if it is a bullshit compliment, she still falls for it!

And for a long time I thought I didnt like leos too much, except for my one best friend with her sun in leo- her birthday is really close to virgo. (and this was long before I knew anything about ascendants and moon signs) and after looking at my own chart, I see I have more planets in leo than in any other sign! Go figure :P Although, I do not like to be bullshited. 

I absolutely do not like to be fucked with.  Even with Libra Mars and Venus, all that sentimental, mushy, romantic, over-the-top bullshit just makes me roll my eyes and look for someone less flowery but who delivers!  Bull-shitting me once will earn my ire, twice will earn wrath, and thrice will earn amputation.  No, sir, I don't like it.  *grumpy Leo snarl-pout*

Leo sun and Merc, with a buncha aspects.

,, rising -- I'm Saturn-ruled and can usually spot a bullshitter right away.  Depends on what kind of bull-shitting it is.... If it's obvious and in fun, then no problem, I'll play right along.  If there's a shifty ulterior motive, they're lying to me or just plain idiots, I'll let the person know I'm onto them and their game is over.  Maybe it's the Leo pride -- how dare you assume I'm so stupid I'd believe that load of crap??!!!!!  {{{ Jaws open wide - snap head right off the pathetic sucker! }}

Good point, PinkMinxx!  The lion's pride is not to be underestimated, injure it at your own risk.  *laughs*  I'm sure if we followed the story of the Emperor's New Clothes long enough, there'd have been an execution. 

Leo, and the other fire signs, love drama.  The rub is not mistaking theatricals for real life.  Bit of earth helps.

Yeah, I think if my mom or grandma had a little water in their charts...

I don't know if Grandma has any but I know for a fact my mom's inner planets go...

Leo sun

Gemini moon

Virgo mercury

Gemini venus

Gemini mars

She and my dad have this fight that repeats over and over, indefinitely. He tells her he quit smoking and then when he comes in from "filling up the car with gas" she sniffs his mouth and fingers and then starts hollering and squawking that he didn't actually quit smoking, that he lied. "YOU LIED TO ME!!"

This happens OVER AND OVER AND OVER! It is bizarre. 

I can't believe all this bullshit about Leo (women). Y'all must be jealous of their hair. 

If you "act" they will probably "act" back but so? Why aren't you scrutinizing the bullshitter for Godsakes?

I think Leos are pure of heart that's why they think everyone is sincere also. The good Leos I mean.

Sorry, but, this Leo sees right through all bullshit.  Have no idea what you are talking about - as a matter of fact, people know I see through them, and they don't like it. I so know the difference between a true compliment, and manipulation.  Don't know, could be the Scorp Rising and Moon, but my Dad was an uber-Leo, and he definitely could not be manipulated, oh, Hell, No. 

I don't know about myself anymore! Hahaha.

Absolutely not!  And I'm a Leo with an air (Libra) Moon.

I've always been romantic and starry-eyed, but I have a good helping of Virgo to plant my feet back on the ground.

Of course I like when someone flatters my ego, but I damn well know if they're after something else.

I became hyper aware of this when I was in college, when Pluto simultaneously squared my Sun/Mars conjunction and transited the 7th house.

If a Leo's heart is in the right place, they're not going to look for flattery from any random bullshitter.  They'll surround themselves with people who love them for themselves and leave the rest to go bother someone else, like a Scorpio, who will make mincemeat out of 'em. 

Like Dorothy I have Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon and Asc., and I don't like to be BS'd either, whether it's a friend, lover or one of my children or grandchildren doing the BS-ing.

If you're someone I love, you get the benefit of the doubt, even if my BS meter is sounding the alarm, just because I love you and want to believe the best about you.  But once the truth is out, I'll let you know *I know* you tried to BS me, and that I'm disappointed, and that'll be the end of it.  Next time, you don't get the benefit of the doubt - no accusations about being a BS-er, just a calm pause to see if you're really saying what you mean and meaning what you say.  If you're someone I don't know and you're trying to BS or overly flatter me, you're going to be examined minutely like an interesting specimen or something, but that'll be about it as far as a response goes.  If you continue to come on too strong, you're gonna get roared at, or at the very least, get ready to be teased in ways you won't like!

When I was much younger, say late teens or early twenties, I was much more gullible but it's been a looooong time since those days!

Bananas, to answer your question:  when it comes to someone I love, yes, I'm easily smoothed over, I forgive easily if that's what you mean.  But if the behavior persists, if someone hurts my feelings again or takes advantage, I just quietly let them know I'm on to them and leave it up to them to deal with themselves.  People I don't know that well are just amputated.

I think it's more about what Toni said - we just want to believe in a person's goodness until they prove otherwise. 

And LOL Elsa:  "you're just jealous of their hair." 

My Leo Mom really DOES have amazing hair. It's thick, black and wavy, and stands up proudly from her scalp, mightily defying gravity. There are only a few little salt and pepper spots, and she's in her sixties.

Her mom's hair was dark auburn when she was young... I imagine she also had fab hair at one time, but I think the hair dye took its toll...

By the way... I'm not excusing whatever person was bullshitting the women... I'm just not making the bullshit part my point. My point is that it STRIKES me that the Leo women in my world place a higher value in words than actions. They do. But it really may be due to their air sign moons as well.

It's almost like the way Virgo expresses love through action but Gemini does it through verbal sentiments. I NOTICE that this is what really "works" best on them. So go figure that my Leo mom marries a Pisces with a Virgo moon and mars in Capricorn. He's not exactly a poet as one might guess.

Okay, in defense of Leo Suns with Air Moons... !  I grew up with tons of smooth talking Latin men and I chose the opposite in my mate!  I admire the quick and 'smooth' flattery - but I don't fall for it.  I know it's just a conversation ice breaker and I take it for what it is.  My husband can't even tell me I look good when I'm trying to look good, his defense is that I always look good so why tell me again.  Very boring!  So Leo women with Air moons aren't buying all the crap, they're just enjoying the flattery.  I was smart enough not to marry into it.  I have a Capricorn rising and almost everything else in 8th house Virgo, except my happy Mars in Leo and my Sun of course...