My husband doesn't think I should say the things I do on my blog. He doesn't think I should bother. I told him that I feel a responsibility as an older person. He says he feels no such responsibility. He said he felt responsibility to his child but not in general.

I thought about this over the last couple hours and I definitely feel what I feel. I'd have been lost in life without the older people who shared their knowledge and experience with me over the years and I mean, I got advice from a 23 year old when I was 15 and such.

I also realized my husband's son feels the way I do. I know this because of how he is with my son. He's a Capricorn rising (so am I) with Saturn exalted in Libra conjunct his Sun.

My son has Saturn conjunct his Sun and I wonder if which way he'll be.

Do you feel a responsibility to help the younger generation(s)?  Why or why not?

yes i do. i try to help out and give advice when younger people dont know where to go or what to do.

that being said i also take care of the elderly. lifting things, picking things up, explaing things extra carefully, being patient, etc.

i think it's a part of service and duty and to be honest, it makes me happy to help people.

Yeah. I guess I just thought because it's what older people do.

Absolutely, I do. And it gets stronger every day. (I'm still just a wee thing, though. It may take some time to fully come to it...)

That's great to here, Shuffle.  That it makes you happy.,

Caroline, the Italian kid (young man) who frequently sits near us in church, who I like so much and who has nice clothes, came in with a young woman tonight, for the first time ever (he comes to church alone) and she looked just like you. I'm hoping this is an omen so you can have those babies you want. :)

Very cool, Michele. :)

Yes, because it's asked of me and I was so out of it when I was younger I needed help from older friends to figure life out. I didn't even know about bike fenders; I thought riding in the rain=having a soaked butt.

Since I started art school I began socializing with younger people for the first time in my life. I get asked a lot of questions. I have a Cancer Sun/Aqua Moon friend who is 9 years younger than me (I'm 34) and she asks me about relationship stuff constantly, for example. She's had one relationship so I guess she wants to hear something from an old ho-bag who's been around the block. Just kidding

When I was 30 I was friends with this 18 year kid, he was from a Chinese family and super sheltered. He asked me tons of stuff. Once he asked me why do girls where such tight jeans? Aren't they uncomfortable? I said Well they usually have spandex or lycra so they have stretch. About 10 mins later I asked him to steady a stool while I climbed up to reach something on a shelf, and as I climbed up on the stool my skinny jeans ripped open at the butt. Boy did we both laugh!

Sun square Saturn; Cap Moon inconjunct Saturn.

I'm with you Shuffle, I'd say it again, but you said it so perfectly, it doesn't need to be restated.

From a younger, please responsibility. Otherwise, we will be lost. :(

Yes, I do. Much like you Elsa, I would have been lost without the guidance of elders. I feel a responsibility to younger women.

There is a lovely young Korean woman that started at my office, early 20s. Her birthday happens to be the day before mine. I see how she struggles with her family, her boyfriend, her job (this is her first). She asks me for advice sometimes and I am happy to offer it to her. For example, her boyfriend is in seminary school and wants to be a pastor. Her mom likes him well enough but gives her shit sometimes because he's not rich. This hurts her.

I asked her if this mattered to her, his lack of funds, or was she happy with him? She replied that they love eachother very much and want to get married eventually. They don't want to be with anyone else. I told her, that's all that matters. Sometimes our parents have a convoluted way of saying they want the best for us, without really knowing what that is. The intention is there, but the communication gets mixed up.

Cool, Elsa!!! 

::beams::

I know, Caroline. I didn't know he was behind us (he is usually in front). I turned around to offer peace and saw that girl and thought, "And there's, Caroline." ::big smile::

I was suprised, see. To see him, to see him with a woman and to see him with a woman who looked like you. ...And then I thought, please be an omen!!! :)

Depends on your chart I guess. I think Cap/Saturn people feel responsible, but others with little to no Cap/Saturn feel less so. Not sure though.

Lol! Church. Neptune is truly omnipotent right now.

I do love Italian men :)

Fiery, that's my guess as well.  I wonder if we'll hear from Cancer types?

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, Fiery.

Loving the omen for Caroline at church! :-)

About the responsibility of elders, well I'm a camp counselor at heart, so I just love the idea of older kids teaching younger kids.

And not only do I appreciate advice from older people that are not my family, but I really believe in apprenticeship. I am working really hard to find the right person who wants to teach me everything they know.

I like hearing from older people because you get some perspective. After all, the world has been turning for millions of years before I ever got here.

Hmmm, well, I've always felt genuinely happy to offer help to people who need it (In contrast, I cannot stand people who ask for help because they are too lazy to do something.)  I just hired this girl to work in my office and when I was interviewing her I just felt like I could maybe be a mentor to her.  She's starting off in the same place I started off in my industry and she reminded me of myself, and well, several people have been mentors to me and I just feel that the honorable thing to do is pay that sort of thing forward.

Cap midheaven.

Capricorn rising older-elder here.  Apart from a neighbour (and thank God for her) when I was aged 3-5, I received no guidance other than injunctions.   I based my life on the precepts taught at Girl Guides (Girl Scouts in USA).  With hindsight, I realise that these were more idealistic than practical.

I do believe that we have a responsibility to help and share our experience with those who are open to it.   

I feel as Ad Astra and several others - you pay it forward where you can. Cap stellium, Virgo Asc - of course I would. And I feel a huge responsibility to do so.

I'd have been totally lost in my late teens and all through my twenties without the help, support and advice I had from older people - men and women, lovers and friends, collegues, most a lot older than myself. Even in childhood, it was the Elders who gave me all the support I had - friends of my parents, extended family, rather than my parents themselves.

Very often, the advice or guidance you DON'T want is exactly the advice you most need. That's why I don't always wait to be asked, before offering it, lol

I pick my audience.  Some younger than me types already think they know everything.  They don't think you know anything.  I learned the biting teacher way so my intent is to tell them to save them pain.  Maybe just save then time, save them money or save them heartache.  The you already know everything types: you can learn the way I did... ouch!

I do, and I do it at work a lot.  It seems that some of the old ways of doing things are not being passed on and when I see someone struggle with something because they haven't been shown or taught what has worked in the pass I feel responsible to teach them.  

My great grandmother owned a bake shop and she refused to give out her recipies well guess where that knowledge is now,  yep 8 feet under.  What a waste. 

I do and can't figure out if it's all my maturnal cancer or my responsible cappy, LOL!!!  The older I get, the more I feel this way, too.  I don't think I had the mentors or whateveryouwanttocallthem, in my younger years the way I do now.  But I have the ability to see them as the blessing they are (maybe not how I'd have seen them when I was younger, so maybe why I didn't have any),
Angie

Yes. I was so happy when my baby brother enrolled into my old school, so I could teach him all he needs to know about it. I love being the older kid, specifically because of that, I get to be the first, I get to break the ice and then I get to tell him where I went wrong and what traps to avoid. I glow when I get to do that (3rd house Sun)

I can't wait 'til I'm much much older, so I can be in position to give an advice about life or love or whatever. I want to go through ups and downs and collect as many experiences as I can.

*thinks about future, glowing smile*

Absolutely, yes. Ultimately, wisdom demands it.

I feel the responsibility to be available.  I enjoy sharing what I know, and learning new things, but I don't take responsibility for others.  I absolutely feel the responsibility to be available, though, and to make what knowledge and wisdom I have accessible to others who want it.  (I'm pretty good at that making knowledge accessible part, too!)

Yes - I was in an actual mentoring program and I was mentoring younger women in info technology. Cap rising/4th house Saturn.

yes.  in my youth my life was "saved" by the mentoring of saturn figures... mainly one older female.  she's not in my life anymore, I'm not sure why... it was a gentle amputation, neptunian plutonian... I didn't know she was gone till she was long gone. 

but anyway, I've always felt the need to pass on the energy that was passed to me.  but I got in deep with a young women, was her maternal mentor, and she died.  and while I still give maternal/elder assistance when needed, it's in the moment, anecdotal.  I haven't allowed any close relationships to form in that way.  I'm still mourning.

Tons.  I have Saturn square my Sun/Moon opposition - it's exalted, rules my IC, and is under a ton of pressure in my chart (bad pun intended). I have always felt old before my time and this was what led me to leave home at 13 and take my little sister with me.  A voice kicked on in my head and said "Kids do not belong in this kind of environment".  It was concern for my sister (nevermind myself) that prompted the exodus because I saw the situation for what it was through an adult's eyes even though I was only a kid myself at the time.  I was afraid for her and what it would mean long term if we continued to see the kinds of things we were exposed to and there was zero hope of this changing outside of getting the hell out of there. 

I take my role as an "Elder" seriously.  I've always tried to give the benefit of my experience when I see someone going down a similar road I've stumbled on and try to model good behavior for my nieces and nephews.  I have a family member or two that are overly permissive of the oldest nephew due wanting to be liked and this is just abhorrent to me.  I will not buy you beer.  I will not tell you that it's OK to slack off in school.  I will talk to you about the importance of things like *priorities* and *consequences* and other such terms that adults love to throw around. 

((Satori))

(((satori)))