- view
- all
- general
- beginners
- news and current events
- astrology stories
- astrology advice
- love, sex and relationships
- celebrities
- colosseum
Just to clarify, I meant that the problems I bring to the soldier in relationship are Saturn Neptune related.
Personally, I have had the most trouble with the Venus Neptune sq in my chart.
Not being able to feel grounded in my reality because of all the fog. Saturn/Neptune conjunction in the 10th house.
Being too passionate and impatient: Mars Aries, Leo Moon, Sag Sun.
I think control is also a theme for me. Control over my thoughts,emotions, and reactions. I have a 12th house Sun in Gemini but I also have Saturn in Aries in the 10th opposing Mars in Libra in the 4th.
thanks for that, elsa. i misunderstood:)
The only theme I can figure is that whenever an outer planet goes over one of my angles (except Saturn) all hell breaks loose and I have to rebuild.
I have at least 3 different themes of problems. I'm a little too new at this to pinpoint exactly what's involved. My instinctive sense from studying my chart is that one theme is the complex relationship between my 12th and 8th houses; the second theme relates to the Virgo/Pisces opposition, which involves both the 1st (Virgo) and 7th (Pisces) house cusps as well as the 6th and 12th houses where the planets in those signs fall (specifically Saturn in Pisces, which I think causes me tons of problems); the third theme involves the Venus/Neptune opposition (with Neptune ruling my 7th house cusp and trining Pisces Saturn). I definitely have the "thinking-things-are-much-worse-than-they-are" disease.
A couple of places in my chart are probably worth watching. My moon/saturn conjunction in Aries in the 7th, for example. It points to my lethargy issues, especially on the topic of living the full, creative life that I really desire. Lethargy and worry are arguably my two achilles heels. With the Aries moon and the rest of the fire in my chart, I'm impatient as well, but I have enough skills in the personal relations quadrant to overcome it, most of the time.
The other one I have to watch is my chart ruler, mercury, being conjunct neptune in the third. I have always benefited from it with the pleasant daydream inner life and my love of world literature, but there is an escapist quality to it that has contributed to my undoing a few times.
So if you put it together, I'd say the lethargy and worry from the seventh have, on occasion, sought escape from the neptune/chart ruler conjunction in the third.
The good news is I've always had the fire to turn things around. If I've learned anything, it's that I'm capable of getting off my ass when the time comes.
Good question! I've got Libra so I'm still thinking on it... ![]()
Actually, probably the root of all my problems is natal Saturn squaring my core stellium (Sun-NN-Mars-Merc). (Both in Cardinal signs.) It's like driving with one foot on the gas (my core stellium in Libra) and the other on the brakes (Saturn in Cap)!!!
This should be resolved over the next few years as all of the above are under both Pluto and Saturn transit simultaneously!! Either that or I'll DIE (Pluto) TRYING (Saturn)!!!
As I seem to be fixated with this on this blog, Venus conjunct Saturn. ![]()
My other MAJOR area of pain seems to be Pluto opposed Sun, which is part of a T-square with my mid-heaven since the sun is conjunct my ascendant and Pluto is conjunct desc. My fixation on Venus/Saturn is probably a way to distract myself from my real problem!
I've had issues with over-the-top narcissistic personalities as bosses. I've read that Pluto opp Sun issues have to do with what I'M contributing to the dynamic, but it's still a mystery to me. No one can believe who I've pulled in on that front in my life. Big jobs, big egos.
Thanks for the question, too, Kashmiri!
There is definitely a theme in my life and that is of rescuer....that venus trine neptune aspect gets me everytime....I am in a jam because of it as we speak. I recently took in a puppy that my friend bought and decided she could not handle....she paid a very dear sum for this puppy and was going to pay another huge amount to have her privately trained and sent off to this boot camp for puppies for six weeks ...I intervened and said I would train her just because she is my friend and I like to and have had several dogs that I have taken in before for training purposes and thought it would be fun. Well, after 2 weeks with me, my friend came by and dropped off her AKC papers and said she wanted me to keep her forever. I was not expecting this to be permanent and now we are in a situation. I told her I couldn't take the pup full time, but she said she was not capable of caring for the puppy. So, I contacted the breeder after my friend surrendered her and her papers and the breeder contacted my friend to let her know she had found a permanent home for her. Well, my friend was furious that I would give her up when she knew I could not do this permanently because of many reasons. So, after many talks we have decided to share her somehow.....I think that means I keep her and care for her and she gets to be grandmother. But I love my friend and I know she gets into really low times because of depression and those times are difficult for her to do much for herself let alone another living being. My friend is in her early sixties and sees her life as over as far as any new love coming into her life and wants so much to just love and be loved.
This may sound cold, but...
She wants to love and be loved soooo much that she goes out and buys a dog that she doesn't want to pay attention to and eventually dumps in someone else's lap? That's effed, maan. And this may be my lower-middle-class prejudice rearing it's ugly head, but to pay a dear sum for a puppy with papers then send it to an expensive boarding school sounds more status symbol than love to begin with.
Okay, that just rubbed me the wrong way. Back to your regularly scheduled programming. *steps off soapbox*
I just looked up the square to my Saturn which is Jupiter, and basically it said exactly what my main problem is - a complete lack of confidence, and particularly relating to a lack of confidence in my own abilities in things - for example I only need one negative comment when I'm doing or learning something or realizing that others are doing it so much better that I just think I'm useless and give up.
Venus-Uranus-Pluto conjunct. It's not as much of a problem as it was in my teens and early twenties, but the issues are still very much there: very odd relationships and very odd views about relationships.
ASC opposite Jupiter. People, especially women my age, see me as this rich, arrogant, snooty, opinionated, bombastic...bitch. I'm nothing of the sort, but if people don't want to look behind the "mask", they don't see beyond this. (My Moon is very widely conjunct Jupiter and also very widely opposite the ASC, so that's got to be why women come into play much more frequently than men.)
My problems are very Saturn/Neptune flavoured, as well as Pluto/Moon flavoured. Blergh :P
Recently, I've been hit hard by the Uranus/Saturn opposition, which likely activates the Saturnian themes I've been having during my return.
Tough tough question. I'm still mulling over this. Here's something...
I have to work hard to get what I want (saturn opp mars)
But I'm never quite sure what I really want/value (Neptune sq Venus)
So I go hide in my shell till the storm blows over (Cancer moon)
Sadiablo....I understand totally with what you are saying....but, at the same time, if someone has only lived a certain way all their life, be it poor or rich....that is all they know....it is all relative to that person. I know better and so do you because we may have experienced more culturally or financially....seen the ups and downs and been there through it. But if someone only sees one thing their feelings come from just that....it is called ignorance, but opposite of what we normally associate it with.
Point was....no matter what...people across the board want to love and feel loved and this woman has not felt loved in forever, mainly because she doesn't love herself....her life, despite its priveledges, has been very sad and deprived of the most basic essentials....nuture, love...caring...I look at my friend and I think how difficult it must be to live with a debilitating mental illness and she acknowledges it, but mostly to have lived such a sheltered life that it has limited her in so many ways. It is a strange situation and the first I have come across of this nature, but they are out there....
I would say...just like Elsa,my Venus sq. Neptune has been tough to work through and has dealt me the most painful lessons. The theme would be "delusions in love and life".I had a pattern that I could not break for a while and re-created it in some way over and over.I have done a lot of work, but I have to be honest and say that because it was so traumatic there are moments when I am still afraid that I cannot trust my own feelings or what I see before me.That was a major confession.Especially since my current relationship is wonderful and I feel secure that he is committed.So I would say that I have begun to break through the fog. I feel for anyone with this aspect in their chart.It's a tricky one.
The other aspects in respective order would be my Sun sq. Moon and Sun conj. Pluto.The first is no walk in the park because I always feel torn in at least two different directions and had trouble in the past prioritizing "needs" vs. "wants". And well...Pluto on your Sun makes you feel like a maniac.I have a completely and utterly obssessive side which I feel compelled to keep secret.The difference between this energy and actual Scorpio sun placement is, I think, that there is a blind-spot somehow to your own depth. And less self-acceptance. I judge myself more harshly than the solar "plutonian" if you will.The energy therefore gets stuck making circles in my brain and is not unleashed in a constructive way.
Wow, people are talking. Glad to be back and talking as well. What a hellish ride September was! ![]()
"Everybody agree?"
I hear a resounding "YES!".
Venus square Pluto, Moon square Pluto, Venus conj Saturn are the themes that most often than not gave me both the greatest of sorrows and elations.
Reply
You must log in to post.
Get A Consultation
I'm available for consultations! You can schedule a consultation by phone. You can also read what clients have to say about my consultations. Thanks, I look forward to working with you. :) - Elsa P


Reading this over on Elsa's blog...she mentioned the problems she brings are Saturn-Neptune flavoured. You can read the comments here:
http://www.elsaelsa.com/archives/2009/10/21/saturn-in-libra-humility-in-relationship-got-some-probably-not/#comment-267279
It's a great post.
Anyway...do you feel your life problems have a theme? I feel mine do...that mine are essentially Uranus-Saturn. I have Uranus conjunct my Midheaven, square Saturn in 8th.
I have ongoing struggles with feeling in control of my life (Saturn) and at the mercy of the changing winds (Uranus). It doesn't help that this takes place in Fixed signs. I want to take care of things, I want to break free. I'm incredibly steady, then I take off like a firecracker. And on and on it goes...
How about you?