Im head over heels for a girl. We both feel a great pull and influence on each other but both are very wary of getting involved because of the potential problems. Does the synastry scream anything in particular to you guys? Is it a recipe for potential happiness or disaster? any input would be greatly appreciated..

 
(Not entirely sure how to make this fit the board. If you click on the chart itll take you to the actual link).

Thanks solaire.

No takers i guess :/

bump..

I had to post it like this because when the charts are mixed together, I get confused and I mix the blue moon with the red person :/

Anyways, I was too tired yesterday to look at charts. Give me a sec

Nice trines Sun to Sun and Moon to Moon, and Mars/Merc to Mars/Merc, which bodes well for communication in and out of bed - all of which is a very good start!

Problems might stem from squares from your Moon/Pluto to her Sun/Neptune/Uranus etc; that will need work

I'll try and take a closer look later.

Ok, the first thing I notice is you both have Earth Suns, Air Moons and Fiery Mercury, Venus and Mars.

Your Suns and Moons trine which is very positive.Same with Mars & Mercury.I especially think the Mercury trine is very beneficial, because communication is key in relationships so a similar communicating style is quite the prize.

Her Sun squares your Venus. So of course a cold, unemotional Cappy Sun is clashing with the fiery nature of Venus in Aries, but she's got Sag to fix this. Plus a square or two is actually good in synastry, I think, because if everything were to easy all your Aries and her Sag would get bored.

oh cross post BP :)

Solaire, my birth time is actually 7:38 am, not 7:58 am. I think those trines from Sun to Moon you mention are therefore squares?

ooops sorry I read it wrong :/

Yes your Sun squares her Moon and her Sun squares your Moon.But those aspects don't necessarily mean you two don't stand a chance.Ther represent a challenge, and you're either going to work hard to overcome it or let it get in your way.

Does it mean though, that in the fact its a double square (my Sun-her Moon, my Moon-her Sun) is extra difficult to overcome?

Also, what about the Eros/Psyche contacts in Aquarius? My Eros is conjunct her Eros (and Moon) and so is my Psyche (not sure of the orbs if they are actually classed as conjunct). I feel a very strong psychic bond with her and feel like i can actually hear her thoughts in my head sometimes.

I don't think so.Even if say her Moon is squared by your Sun, it still gets support from your Moon in the form of a trine.

I agree that the Sun/Sun and Moon/Moon trines should mitigate the effects of the Sun/Moon squares. And you both have Fixed Moons, so even though yours is Aqua with a tendency to detach if things get rough, provided you do mutually love one another, I'd say you have a good chance of making it stick. Taurus Moon is very solid (I know, I have one)

There's a good bit more positive in the synastry chart than negative, as I see it

Hang on lol, my Moon is Libra and hers is Aqua. My Sun is Taurus, is that what you meant? Also, in every free synastry analysis ive run theres no mention of Moon trine Moon. Is that because theyre unlikely to be so in depth, or is it somehow a miscalculation?

Ach sorry, first I thought SHE was outside, and then I'm seeing double with the glyphs! It's 2am here, time I went to bed!!

Sun/Uranus/Neptune and Cap with an Aqua Moon - I can't imagine someone with this combination! She must be very.... unusual. Does she come across as very 'cool'?

She also has Moon square Pluto, never easy (I have that too, as do many here - there are lots of threads on it on EE)

Shes unusual in the extreme. Physically attractive to die for, with very exotic tastes, highly impressionable yet intensely stubborn. You basically cant tell her anything as she will rebel against it and is a total 'contrarian'. Shes exceedingly independent but at the same time has a desire to be dominated or controlled. When she feels shes had enough of that she withdraws completely and punishes by a seeming total indifference. In public she plays the clown, always laughing and joking, often in a provocative and obviously false manner. In private she is extremely insecure and sensitive, reacting with a massive temper that can make her particularly nasty. The coming across as cool is definitely there but underlied by an extremely volatile emotional nature which makes her say the most cruel and devastating things when the pressure builds. I could go on forever and make an endless list of why shes no good for me, or any harmony-loving person for that matter, but what it comes down to is that she is like a force of nature. Theres something mercurial about her that just draws me in like a helpless addict. I would let her destroy me if only to let her know how much an object of desire she is in my consciousness. I feel way out of my depth, but at the same time like a moth to a candle-flame :/

It just occured to me that first she got her Merc/Venus/Mars hit by Pluto, soon it's going to be her Sun/Uranus/Neptune and then her Saturn/Moon, and somewhere along with this she's also going to have her Saturn return.

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You basically cant tell her anything as she will rebel against it and is a total 'contrarian'. Shes exceedingly independent but at the same time has a desire to be dominated or controlled.

sounds very Moon in Aqua square Pluto in Scorpio to me.

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When she feels shes had enough of that she withdraws completely and punishes by a seeming total indifference.

Cap/Aqua

The coming across as cool is definitely there but underlied by an extremely volatile emotional nature

Sun conjunct Uranus+ Aqua Moon

In private she is extremely insecure and sensitive, reacting with a massive temper that can make her particularly nasty.

Could be Pluto in the 12th and Moon conjunct IC

Also, and since I don't know this girl I'm only saying this as a "could be" and it's up to you to figure wether it is or isn't, she's only 20 years old and maybe she's not mature enough to deal with whatever she's dealing (you mentioned about saying cruel things to you).  I think this should be taken into consideration.Maybe she needs some more growing up to do.

She definitely is too young to have matured past some of that, but with all that transit and Saturn return it doesnt sound like its going to get any easier for her? Do you think shes likely to learn and grow a lot through them? Her family life isnt all it could be and both her parents and her older brother are kind of unstable too in ways.

What hurts me a lot about her situation is that she has been seeing a guy for 3 years who really mistreats her. Hes an ex-drug dealer and baddie-type of Muslim with the whole "women have no rights other than what a man allows them" thing going on. He manipulates and puts her down all the time, but whats crazy is that she seems to want that, even though she makes out like she doesnt.

They get into physical fights and hes even punched her in the womb when she was pregnant, spat in her face and told her he hopes it dies, which she (a baby girl) did, as the placenta was damaged and a miscarriage occured. Yet, all she said was that hes just stupid and she forgave him in time. It beggars belief.

I read many times on these boards stories of people who made some really bad choice in their young adulthood, and they are happy an healthy people today.They managed to get out of the mess they've created. I don't know how much you can help her, I think it's about how much she is willing to listen to you.An she obviously thinks she's doing things right.

Her situation describes a Pluto transit to the T, and as Elsa said in thread recently :"You encounter horror of whatever kind and you really don't think it can get any worse, or any deeper, only to wake up 20 feet lower then you were the day before.  This is truly the tip of the iceberg."

I don't have a good advice to give to you. Maybe you should start a new thread, explaining her story and see what others think.

Any woman who allows any physical violence towards her whatever, let alone what she has allowed and tacitly condoned (a form of murder imo!), has a very serious problem, to my mind. I'm not sure you can help women like that, and I'm not at all sure it's wise to try. A woman who can allow a man to cause her to miscarry her child then forgive him is seriously emotionally damaged - I'd say, morally damaged too.

In your shoes I'd probably tell her that you're there for her if she severs her ties with this man, and then walk away. And stay away! - at least until she does. Otherwise you are just going to be used as shoulder to cry on, a punch bag, whatever - and she won't respect you for it, neither will you truly be able to help her.

It's not clear whether you are all from the same Muslim culture, or just the boyfriend, or jsut her and the bf. I think that does affect the situation to some extent. But I hope you can use your Aqua Moon to detach from this situation, as I can't see it going anywhere positive for you, any time soon

ETA  I'm not a good person to comment though as I have little time for women who 'enable' violence from men. I wouldn't stay two minutes with a man who was violent towards me, I couldn't love a man like that, and I find women who do quite incomprehensible, even (esp!) if there are children around.

Shes the one with the Aqua Moon! Maybe in some twisted way it helps her detach from her own nightmare? She has this kind of split personality going on where part of her is the innocent fun-loving, gregarious, naive and impressionable young girl, and the dark side where she is ruthlessly manipulative, subtly controlling, violently reactive, and prone to self-harm. I honestly think she wants to harm herself as a way to spite him, because he is just malevolent and wont leave her alone. Not too sure about his chart but im pretty sure i remember her telling me he is an Aries.

The thing is that she got with him when she was just 16, and like a dark horse he came and abducted her by playing just nice enough to fool her guardian. But because of her own dark streak, she fell right in step with his criminality, the excitement, and the exotic nature of his Muslim or should i say Arabic culture (she once told me that a lot of Arab men live their culture not their religion, which i found very true and insightful).

Now shes a prisoner not only of his vicelike grip on her tortured psyche, but also of her own predisposition to the kind of lifestyle and vibe that he allured her with. Its as though shes taken on some of his bad qualities, and is becoming kind of like him. One thing that stands out in my mind is that she said he told her he had her cursed by a magician back in Egypt, and that her fomer boyfriend, who was also a Muslim, had her cursed as well. Its a strange and terrible karma.

The irony of it all is she is a second or third generation Aussie girl. Must be a lot of past life stuff getting worked out this time around. Im not Arab or Muslim myself in this incarnation, but i often feel a past life connection with her in a Muslim context.

Its a crying shame what she allows herself to go through, i agree, and ordinarily i would pray for her and stay away but the connection with her is so strong. I feel like its fate that we actually got to know one another. Partly this is because ive been told about her when i was a teenager and later by several psychics.

Her mother is pretty psychic and i remember meeting her years ago. Her mom saw me and asked my name and how old i was. I said 22 i think i was at the time. Then she said she has a young daughter, and calculated how old i would be when whatever she was thinking about might happen. Then said "Hmm, she might just go for an over 30 year old but i wont be around forever and might not see it happen." Then i thought about how surreal all this was and just said "Some things just arent meant to be." That night i dreamt about a girl (this girl, believe it or not) who id never met telling me off for some things which i hadnt actually done yet, until years later.

There was also a very intuitive woman i got a reading from years before that. She said around 31 you will meet a girl, who will run you over with your own car. Then later, you will meet another girl.. no, it will be the same one; she will come back for you. But first she will leave you and run you over with your own car, whatever that means. It wasnt until years later, the start of 2010 when all this came flooding back after i had got to know this girl. And sure enough she did run me over with my own car (a truck) metaphorically, because i had told her all my secrets. This and the overwhelming desire for her that suddenly surfaced in me is the car or truck that she ran me over with, in that she wouldnt give in to my advances because of them. She herself described a dream shed had when younger where a guy was chasing her and she jumped in his truck and ran him over!

So much crazy psychic stuff happening between us, its definitely not the average sort of connection i make or have with anyone let alone a romantic interest. I feel like she is part of my destiny. Its all very secret and very strange :/