Have you come face to face with violence in your life? Astrology?
posted 6 months ago in Lounge
No violence in my life has ever come close to my childhood, even after 20 years in the Navy and one war...........my childhood is still the worst I have ever come across.
My Ma was a bit violent towards me - she hit me quite a few times both as punishment and through losing her temper - but nothing really dangerous, ie life-threatening. I've never been in the way of violence since, bar a couple of [mutually] slapped faces when rowing with some maddening man ;)
I ca't imagine being around the kind of violence VA and Annalisa mention - it's just not part of my safe middle class world, and although I walked on the wild side in some respects as a young adult, I stayed away from violence. I just had one brush with danger when three men tried to pull me into a car at 1am on a country road on the island - luckily our dogs heard the commotion and came and rescued me: you've never seen three men scamble back into a small car so fast! They were mainlanders - things like that 'never happened' there at that period.
Annalisa, short of gang culture in a few big cities, which is a mainly black-on-black or -Asian phenomenon, England is pretty safe. Nobody except a few gangsters carries a gun, not even the police, and knife-carrying is similarly pretty well confined to a certain strata of society. If you stay out of their 'home' areas you really are pretty well good to go
I can't imagine living somewhere where you're always in danger - it would depress me unutterably not to feel free to live my life
As for the three guys, they started just asking me to go in the car to the nearest bar with them... then they got out and tried pulling me, maybe it was just two of them, the driver stayed put. It was a spur of the moment thing, they'd been drinking, and it must have been full moon - I remember it was very light... Luckily the dogs - my surrogate mother's - were big, and I wasn't far from the house. In winter you can hear a sound for miles there... and they were in the boys' rooms which were outside the main house, not locked in. I was lucky! People giving me a lift back from town after that always took me all the way instead of dropping me at the junction!
I think you get a second sense for violence if you live where it is a bit dangerous. I live in a gated community but that does not mean that outside the gates it is safe. This country truly has too much violence, this is true. I have been to other countries and it is a different feel, certainly.
My childhood was terrible, like BP, Ireland is pretty much safe. Yes there is some dangerous spots but you can walk around at night feeling pretty safe.
Yes. Mars, Uranus and Pluto in the 4th in Virgo. Glad those years are over. I'm very careful who I let near my life and who I let *in* my life for this reason. I just can't take anymore upset, drama, trauma etc. Life isn't supposed to be that way. First sign of it - no matter how long I've known someone or how much I care about them - they're out of my life.
One time I was 17 and out one night. 2 girls were looking for a friend of mine. Even if I knew where she was I wouldn't have told, something felt dangerous. and it was. The one that was under 18 got me on the ground and beat my head into the ground over and over. This may sound crazy but I watched the whole thing from above her without ever losing consciousness. I wish I could remember the date so I could see what was being aspected. I have Taurus(earth/ground) mars(injury/Head) in the 12th sextile Pisces sun in 10th(viewable by the public?), both inconjunct Uranus(unexpected) in libra in 5th.
Yes, I have had a gun waved in my face by a drunk.
What I remember best about the event was that everyone else ran away, and left me there in the dark with their bicycles laying around, to console this drunk with the gun.
His wife was standing in the doorway wailing; "Come back in the house Johnny, Come back in the house Johnny, Come back in the house, Johnny..."
What did I do? I called him Sir, and apologized for my friends making noise in the alley, and asked if I could pick up the bicycles before I left.
I put one under each arm and got the hell out of dodge. Isn't that Taurus, though, to care about the material things even under stress. And they weren't even my bikes.
No, not really. Once I was talking to my friends at school and this girl with down syndrome was standing next to me and I didn't see her. Out of the blue she just reaches up and SLAPS my face! Wtf??? I was pretty shaken, because I didn't even know a person was standing there lol So it was like "hey friends, this was so funny-WHACK!" After she'd left, I went to gym class and bawled :P
My brothers and sisters and I used to beat the shit out of each other lol I don't know why, in retrospect -- now we all get along super well.
That's about as bad as it ever got for me. I have Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo and I think I've always had a strong sense of my immortality (even when I was little), of what could go wrong, and I don't like to tempt fate because I'm a pessimist and ALWAYS assume I AM the one in a million :) I think I'm good at steering myself from dangerous situations for the most part. I have good friends and never had a drunken-high "phase" where I was alone and drunk someplace. I was always in by like, 10pm lol
If I drink outside of my home, I always make sure a trusted friend or family member is with me to guide me home. I never assume that just because the world should be more sane that it ever really will be. I dunno. I may just be very lucky...My Mars is in Leo and Mars rules my sun (5th house Aries). Scorpio is my ASC and people used to say that was Mars ruled, right? If you consider it's Pluto, that might account for some "fuck off" vibe I send out lol
So yeah -- I don't think I exude that "sweet" or vulnerable vibe that some people tend to have to overcome. People generally don't mess with me, thank God. God knows I don't know how to fight back LOL
Some of these replies are reminding of things I'd forgotten!
Once I in summer I drove down from the country to London and was due to stay with friends. I arrived c10pm and was trying to park the car. I waved another car past me so the road was clear. There were four black girls in it all dressed up for a night out - maybe high on something too! The driver started yelling at me, got out of her car, and stalked across to mine, and slammed her mobile into my face! Then she got back in her car and drove off! It was... stunning. Mobiles were quite big in those days - it was around 1998.
Another time, back in the 80s, I intervened in an incident when two old Scottish drunks were racially taunting an inoffensive black guy who sat and took it until they spat on him. He then leaped to his feet and pulled a knife... There were two or three men in the carriage who put up their newspapers and pretended they were elsewhere - which incensed me! I made the black guy sit down and put his knife away and pushed the old guys off the train at the next station! it was quite funny at the time but I was shaking later... lol
Yes--Mars/Pluto?
Sunny the one and only time I got shitckicked by a stranger was on Grafton St in Dublin! He dragged me down by my hair and kicked me in the head. I was surprisingly alright emotionally after it. The reaction of my then-boyfriend was the worst part, he was absolutely useless.
^^wow...
yeah, abuse and sexual assault and erm, other childhood stuff. Venus/Sun in Taurus squared by Uranus in Leo and opposed by Neptune in Scorpio. At least that's what I've always figured.
Handled it? Aries moon and Aries mars. Strong sense of self combined with the Taurus. I finally confronted my stepfather when he started to beat me one day and threatened to use my leverage to kick him down the stairs. To reinforce it I stood outside his open bedroom door with a butcher knife until he woke up. Then I smiled at him. The only thing stopping me was love for my mother and not wanting her to wake up to that. He never bothered me again. He didn't sleep very well either...
A person shouldn't have to do that at that age, but life never promised to be fair, did it?
Some of these answers about violence are scary and very sad. It is such a horror to face a life and death situation and child abuse is so ugly and painful. It is amazing what we can survive and become stronger for. I am surprised there is not more violence that people have faced...
Thank you for sharing.
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I have come face to face with my share of violence in my life. I have been stabbed, had a gun pulled on me twice and had an abusive relationship, not to mention my childhood. I tie this to my Mars aspects as well as Pluto.
Have you come up close and personal with violence in your life? What is the astrology to it? How did you handle it?