Have you come face to face with violence in your life? Astrology?

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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    I have come face to face with my share of violence in my life.  I have been stabbed, had a gun pulled on me twice and had an abusive relationship, not to mention my childhood. I tie this to my Mars aspects as well as Pluto.

    Have you come up close and personal with violence in your life?  What is the astrology to it?  How did you handle it?

     
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    Virgo Avenger (wall)    Tucson Az.   DO NOT BACK-UP, SEVERE TIRE DAMAGE.

    No violence in my life has ever come close to my childhood, even after 20 years in the Navy and one war...........my childhood is still the worst I have ever come across.

     

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    I have come into violence both in my childhood and in my adult life but not in years. I think I have  learned to watch out for myself. I was quite the adventurer when I was younger.

     
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    Caroline (wall)       Gemini Sun Gemini Moon Libra Rising

    Oh my gosh! That is horrible! I have been lucky enough to not come across much violence in my life.

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    That is lucky, Caroline! I was an adventurer and still am so I think I put myself in some strange situations. Exploring places I shoiuld not have been, for  example.

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    That is lucky, Caroline! I was an adventurer and still am so I think I put myself in some strange situations. Exploring places I shoiuld not have been, for  example.

     
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    Blessed Place (wall)    UK   Sun/ Ven/ Merc in Cap, Moon in Taurus, Virgo Asc. Chinese: wood Rooster

    My Ma was a bit violent towards me - she hit me quite a few times both as punishment and through losing her temper - but nothing really dangerous, ie life-threatening. I've never been in the way of violence since, bar a couple of [mutually] slapped faces when rowing with some maddening man ;)

    I ca't imagine being around the kind of violence VA and Annalisa mention - it's just not part of my safe middle class world, and although I walked on the wild side in some respects as a young adult, I stayed away from violence. I just had one brush with danger when three men tried to pull me into a car at 1am on a country road on the island - luckily our dogs heard the commotion and came and rescued me: you've never seen three men scamble back into a small car so fast! They were mainlanders - things like that 'never happened' there at that period.

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    BP, it sounds as if you live in a very safe world.  I have had someone try to pull me into a vehicle in my life but not three! That would be very scary to me! I'm glad you have lived so safely and wish everyone did.

     
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    Blessed Place (wall)    UK   Sun/ Ven/ Merc in Cap, Moon in Taurus, Virgo Asc. Chinese: wood Rooster

    Annalisa, short of gang culture in a few big cities, which is a mainly black-on-black or -Asian phenomenon, England is pretty safe. Nobody except a few gangsters carries a gun, not even the police, and knife-carrying is similarly pretty well confined to a certain strata of society. If you stay out of their 'home' areas you really are pretty well good to go

    I can't imagine living somewhere where you're always in danger - it would depress me unutterably not to feel free to live my life

    As for the three guys, they started just asking me to go in the car to the nearest bar with them... then they got out and tried pulling me, maybe it was just two of them, the driver stayed put. It was a spur of the moment thing, they'd been drinking, and it must have been full moon - I remember it was very light... Luckily the dogs - my surrogate mother's - were big, and I wasn't far from the house. In winter you can hear a sound for miles there... and they were in the boys' rooms which were outside the main house, not locked in. I was lucky! People giving me a lift back from town after that always took me all the way instead of dropping me at the junction!

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    I think you get a second sense for violence if you live where it is a bit dangerous. I live in a gated community  but that does  not mean that outside  the gates it is safe.  This country truly has too much violence, this is true. I have been to other countries and it is a different feel, certainly.

     
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    sunnysadge (wall)       Sun Sag Moon Pisces Rising Cap

    My childhood was terrible, like BP, Ireland is pretty much safe. Yes there is some dangerous spots but you can walk around at night feeling pretty safe.

     
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    kr (wall)       Cancer Sun, Virgo Asc, Aquarius Moon

    Unfortunately, yes. When I was a teenager. When I looked up the transits for the day I was pretty blown away, actually.

    Sun and Pluto exactly conjunct my IC in Scorpio. T Lilith conjunct my natal moon.

     
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    Glenn (wall)    rural Illinois   scorpio sun , virgo ascendant , pisces moon , chinese : water rabbit

    Yes.... and found out later the military used it as "an example" of what not to do / get involved with. *Sigh* My mistake is on perennial display for the foreseeable future.

     
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    le_soleil (wall)    love wins  

    Like VA (although never having been in the service, much less @ war), nothing I've encountered in my adulthood; has even come close to the kinds/amount of violence in my childhood. Maybe chalk it up to being a 1st house Pluto ?

     
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    caribou (wall)       Sun Scorp, Aries Moon, Gemini Asc

    Yes. Mars, Uranus and Pluto in the 4th in Virgo. Glad those years are over. I'm very careful who I let near my life and who I let *in* my life for this reason. I just can't take anymore upset, drama, trauma etc. Life isn't supposed to be that way. First sign of it - no matter how long I've known someone or how much I care about them - they're out of my life.

     
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    Solaire (wall)    Rijeka,Croatia   I balance, I will, I think

    I consider myself lucky.But Mars is trining Pluto,opposing Uranus and Neptune and squaring the Sun so who knows what he has is store for me.

     
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    le_soleil (wall)    love wins  

    @Caribou -- I have the same planets in Virgo that you do, only mine are 1st house; and I handle my relations with others the SAME WAY that you do, for similar reasons. I'm extremely prudent and careful, it's just the way it is; so I totally get you.

     
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    learningtoground (wall)       WaterAIRWater

    One time I was 17 and out one night. 2 girls were looking for a friend of mine. Even if I knew where she was I wouldn't have told, something felt dangerous. and it was. The one that was under 18 got me on the ground and beat my head into the ground over and over. This may sound crazy but I watched the whole thing from above her without ever losing consciousness. I wish I could remember the date so I could see what was being aspected. I have Taurus(earth/ground) mars(injury/Head) in the 12th sextile Pisces sun in 10th(viewable by the public?), both inconjunct Uranus(unexpected) in libra in 5th.

     
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    Mercingemini (wall)    105* 46' 36"W by 39* 46' 23"N   Taurus Sun Taurus Moon

    Yes, I have had a gun waved in my face by a drunk.

    What I remember best about the event was that everyone else ran away, and left me there in the dark with their bicycles laying around, to console this drunk with the gun.

    His wife was standing in the doorway wailing; "Come back in the house Johnny, Come back in the house Johnny, Come back in the house, Johnny..."

    What did I do? I called him Sir, and apologized for my friends making noise in the alley, and asked if I could pick up the bicycles before I left.

     I put one under each arm and got the hell out of dodge. Isn't that Taurus, though, to care about the material things even under stress. And they weren't even my bikes.

     
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    treehugginmama (wall)       Aries sun. Gem moon. Scorpio ASC. Leo Mars/MC. Taurus Venus

    No, not really. Once I was talking to my friends at school and this girl with down syndrome was standing next to me and I didn't see her. Out of the blue she just reaches up and SLAPS my face! Wtf??? I was pretty shaken, because I didn't even know a person was standing there lol So it was like "hey friends, this was so funny-WHACK!" After she'd left, I went to gym class and bawled :P

    My brothers and sisters and I used to beat the shit out of each other lol I don't know why, in retrospect -- now we all get along super well. 

    That's about as bad as it ever got for me. I have Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo and I think I've always had a strong sense of my immortality (even when I was little), of what could go wrong, and I don't like to tempt fate because I'm a pessimist and ALWAYS assume I AM the one in a million :) I think I'm good at steering myself from dangerous situations for the most part. I have good friends and never had a drunken-high "phase" where I was alone and drunk someplace. I was always in by like, 10pm lol

    If I drink outside of my home, I always make sure a trusted friend or family member is with me to guide me home. I never assume that just because the world should be more sane that it ever really will be. I dunno. I may just be very lucky...My Mars is in Leo and Mars rules my sun (5th house Aries). Scorpio is my ASC and people used to say that was Mars ruled, right? If you consider it's Pluto, that might account for some "fuck off" vibe I send out lol  

    So yeah -- I don't think I exude that "sweet" or vulnerable vibe that some people tend to have to overcome. People generally don't mess with me, thank God. God knows I don't know how to fight back LOL

     
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    Blessed Place (wall)    UK   Sun/ Ven/ Merc in Cap, Moon in Taurus, Virgo Asc. Chinese: wood Rooster

    Some of these replies are reminding of things I'd forgotten!

    Once I in summer I drove down from the country to London and was due to stay with friends. I arrived c10pm and was trying to park the car. I waved another car past me so the road was clear. There were four black girls in it all dressed up for a night out - maybe high on something too! The driver started yelling at me, got out of her car, and stalked across to mine, and slammed her mobile into my face! Then she got back in her car and drove off! It was... stunning. Mobiles were quite big in those days - it was around 1998.

    Another time, back in the 80s, I intervened in an incident when two old Scottish drunks were racially taunting an inoffensive black guy who sat and took it until they spat on him. He then leaped to his feet and pulled a knife... There were two or three men in the carriage who put up their newspapers and pretended they were elsewhere - which incensed me! I made the black guy sit down and put his knife away and pushed the old guys off the train at the next station! it was quite funny at the time but I was shaking later... lol

     
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    Kashmiri (wall)       Earth on Fire

    Yes--Mars/Pluto?

    Sunny the one and only time I got shitckicked by a stranger was on Grafton St in Dublin! He dragged me down by my hair and kicked me in the head. I was surprisingly alright emotionally after it. The reaction of my then-boyfriend was the worst part, he was absolutely useless.

     
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    Tam (wall)       Gemini Sun Virgo Moon Gemini Rising

    I was shot at when I was in the 5th grade. I felt the air from bullet as it went by my forehead. It wasn't anything personal to me.

    I have had a lot of scary close calls. More than I like to think about.

    Uranus/Pluto conjunct Moon

     
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    brizo (wall)    midwest   Taurus/Aries/Gemini

    ^^wow...

    yeah, abuse and sexual assault and erm, other childhood stuff.  Venus/Sun in Taurus squared by Uranus in Leo and opposed by Neptune in Scorpio.  At least that's what I've always figured.

    Handled it?  Aries moon and Aries mars.  Strong sense of self combined with the Taurus. I finally confronted my stepfather when he started to beat me one day and threatened to use my leverage to kick him down the stairs.  To reinforce it I stood outside his open bedroom door with a butcher knife until he woke up.  Then I smiled at him.  The only thing stopping me was love for my mother and not wanting her to wake up to that.  He never bothered me again.  He didn't sleep very well either...

    A person shouldn't have to do that at that age, but life never promised to be fair, did it?

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    A zillion close calls, mostly from living/working in Detroit in the crack-a-rific 1980s. Sooo much automatic weapon fire at night, every night.

    One year, I burned out my adrenal glands :/

     
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    brizo (wall)    midwest   Taurus/Aries/Gemini

    I'll bet Jilly.  Couldn't imagine prolonged fight or flight like that...  :1

     
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    caribou (wall)       Sun Scorp, Aries Moon, Gemini Asc

    Le Soleil...that's comforting. I can't imagine having it all in first house!! And I thought fourth was rough. ((Hug))

    These stories are something. Second the ^^Wow. ((Hug Everyone))

     
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    Caprion (wall)      

    No, thank goodness. Just a plethora of unwanted sexual advances, especially as a child, that luckily never went anywhere.

    Can't imagine going through what some of you have...sad

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    Some of these answers about  violence are scary and very sad. It is  such a horror to face a life  and death situation and child abuse  is so ugly and painful.  It is amazing what we can survive and become stronger for. I am surprised there is not more violence that people have faced...

    Thank you for sharing.

     
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    le_soleil (wall)    love wins  

    I'm glad we've all made, if not a bit worse for wear, in places. (((everyone)))

     

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