Have you ever been the object of a conquest?

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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    Do you know what I mean?

    Elsa's husband touched on this in reference to being the object of someone who approaches him with intention of seducing him. He said something to the effect of, "I found it has very little to do with me" and he is exactly right.

    How about you? You have ever been targeted? how did you handle it? What were your initial thoughts?

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    Just to clarify, my husband was specifically talking about women who targeted him when he was married. He felt they wanted to take something from someone else and he was just a pawn.

     
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    daisy (wall)    The other side for now   Bouncing up the mountain drunk

    I have been targeted.  At first it hurt like and then it pissed me off.  It eventually forced me to take a good long hard look at myself and to find ways to stop it.  It wasn't easy, but it has contributed to my growth.  

    I have pisces and neptune in the 7th, I have weak boundaries, not because I am weak, but because of my pisces/neptune positive aspects.  You know that blessing/curse polarity.  They say pick pockets and theives scope out their victims, like that.   

    People have taken advatage of my easy going nature, it was hard to stay caring and compasionate while setting good boundaries in relationships.   I am getting better at recognizing those who just want to take advantage of me for their own personal gain vs. truly caring about me.  

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    Yes, that is what I'm talking about. But not just from women toward men. Also men toward women. Conquistadors are of both sexes I'm finding.

    I think it stems from an insecurity. as well as a need for drama among other things.

    It can also happen in the workforce as well as in the romantic arena

     
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    CArRiE (wall)    Pacific NW   Aries Sun, Scorpio Moon & Rising

    I was once... and I agree, it had very little to do with 'me'.  It had to do with his 'ideal' of me.  Thank goodness the veil finally dropped after 5 years of marriage.

     
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    sunnysadge (wall)       Sun Sag Moon Pisces Rising Cap

    Yes, when I was younger.

    I met this guy, he was hot and smart. He asked me out on a date. We were talking laughing, playing a game of pool. He then said, "I have to stop you, you're the type of girl I should date and take home to mummy. I'm just here to fuck you. You're too sweet for me to treat you like that. I have to go". He then leaves me. I'm sitting at the table stunned.

    Thats when I've realased that some guys are out there for one thing only.

    Hmmm I don't know if I answered the question correctly?

     

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    I wonder if there is something astrologically that predisposes someone to to being a conquistador (so to speak) or even being the conquest.

    Daisy brings up a good point about Neptune/Pisces. I'm wondering if this on the other end, could be associated with Aries in some way. I don't know. I'm sure there are many different reasons.

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    yeah Sunny, you did :)

     
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    kr (wall)       Cancer Sun, Virgo Asc, Aquarius Moon

    I have been recently. I think it was the guy proving something to my husband. Fail on his part.

    He had a stellium in Aries.

     
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    sunnysadge (wall)       Sun Sag Moon Pisces Rising Cap

    Josi, that was a hard lesson to learn at 19.

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    well, at least you learned it at 19 Sunny. I was much older :) Slow bloomer yanno..lol

    Interesting kr..the one person I have in mind has venus in aries as well as chiron

     
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    Alethea (wall)       Minion of Mercury, Jovian Jester...

    Well, if you mean it from the perspective of taking what's not yours, I would say Venus-Pluto.  Venus-Neptune can also do it from the "illicit affairs" angle.  Venus - Mars likes the thrill of the chase - it's all different flavors but any of the above can contribute to this behavior, IMO. 

    @ Sunny - LMAO!  I wonder if he was a Sadge, haha!  At least he was completely honest about his intentions.....IMO, it's not the guys like this you have to worry about.  He'll straight-up tell you what he's looking for and you can decide accordingly.  It's those smooth, slick guys that woo you for the sole purpose of getting in your pants without being upfront about their agenda that are problematic.  He knows she wants a relationship, but really all he wants is a piece of ass but is not showing his hand in hopes that she'll give it up if he plays his hand right.  Then he pulls a disappearing act. 

     
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    sunnysadge (wall)       Sun Sag Moon Pisces Rising Cap

    Awww Josi.smiley But still learning that lesson at any age really sucks.

    Alethea, he was a Cancer. I guess he must of had Sag Moon or Rising. Yeah, I've been lucky that I don't meet a lot of guys like you mentioned. Phew! But I'm a Sadge so trying to pin me down is really hard.

     
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    sunnysadge (wall)       Sun Sag Moon Pisces Rising Cap

    Also I have a habit of meeting a lot Sadge Venus, Moon guys.

     
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    LisLioness (wall)    New Jersey   Shining Star/Miss Manners/Conquistador

    Both.  I failed and they failed.

    Why did I do it?  Ego and a need to conquer someone or something.

    I was young and stupid.  I would never do it now.

    ETA:  It was a combination of Leo (ego), Aries (conquest) and Venus/Pluto (taboo).

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    @ Sunny LOL, yes you are right. At any age it does suck. What I meant is that it took a couple of whacks with the spatula before I understood what the heck was going on.

     
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    sunnysadge (wall)       Sun Sag Moon Pisces Rising Cap

    Josi, Oh alright. Well at least you learnt. I know a girl who still hasn't and it's something that you can't just tell them about, but learn from it.

    *fist bumps to all that learnt*

     
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    omie (wall)      

    Every since pluto has been in cap. this has happened to me nonstop.(I'm a cancer sun) Men women, everybody. It's an education. But it's also lonesome. I want someone who cares about me.

     

     
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    Kashmiri (wall)       Earth on Fire

    Yes, repeatedly. I have Venus/Mars in Aries opposing Pluto.

     
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    McKenna (wall)    Australia   Sun in Pisces, Capricorn Rising, Moon in Aries

    Ouuu yeah... this really is an Aries thing! *nod nod*

     
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    Kashmiri (wall)       Earth on Fire

    Often I liked it; it can be absolutely delicious. All the time though...not so much. It can be, as omie says, extremely lonesone.

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    It can give a rush to the "object" I mean, who doesn't like to be desired. Esp if you are feeling like a whithered house wife/mother (which is how I was feeling at the time). Just so happens the guy was on to that. He could pick up on this factor in married women..knew when they were vulnerable and knew how to work it in his favor.

    I was freaking amazed that people such as this even existed. And then finding out, "it's all about the game" and not so much that you are hot..attractive or alluring..lol..wow that smarts.

     
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    VirgoPianist (wall)    USA   Triple Earth and Leo

    Twice.  I didn't handle it very well, I'm afraid.  My Venus trine Uranus choked and ran away!  embarrassed

     
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    HadesMoon (wall)    New York   Gemini sun, Virgo moon, Capricorn rising

    Oh yes, many times.  Somestimes it was due to what I represented to them, or times because I was young and attractive and they wanted it.

    Sometimes I realized this was going on, other times not.  I always though trusted my instincts which would indicate something was not right - and so - in the long run, no harm was ever done.

     
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    egiyablu (wall)    somewhere over the rainbow   Gem

    I was. It was not pleasant.

     
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    lisa13 (wall)    Munich   Pisces Libra Virgo

    ((( josi )))

    yes it does smart.  I have never been the object of a "conquest" insofar as I never felt chased, but definitely been tricked by manipulators whose intentions are very different that what they portray.

     

    @sunnysadge, I have to say, I think that in some way that's a really sweet story.  Truly - something about you made him actually respect you.  There is nothing degrading about that at all.  You brought out a bit of the good in this "bad" guy.  I would take that as a compliment.

     
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    Blessed Place (wall)    UK   Sun/ Ven/ Merc in Cap, Moon in Taurus, Virgo Asc. Chinese: wood Rooster

    Many times - I was quite a 'trophy woman' in my day (which went on for a long time I'm glad to say). I handle it with aplomb.

    I enjoyed it, and I enjoyed the game of cat and mouse in most cases. The Man - with whom I subsequently had a very long on/off affair - laid siege to me for over a year before he 'conquered' me, and he had to do it over and over again after our periodic bust-ups. My First Great love set out to conquer me and it took him the best part of a year. Many men never succeeded, some tried for a long time! 

    It's all part of life's rich pageant, in my book. I'm always flattered, and always feel a certain tenderness for the men who put in a lot of time and effort - whether I succumb or not

    Just occasionally someone I really didn't like laid siege to me, and I found that unpleasant. But I could usually cut that off pretty fast ;)  A couple of real creeps were VERY persistent, and I ended up having to be quite rude, and unkind.

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    BP, You bring up a very good point and I respect your position of enjoying it. I definitely understand your reference to the "thrill of the chase with cat and mouse" But, being referred to as a "trophy woman" was exactly what clued me into what was going on except my reaction was MUCH different. I didn't like it at all..no..not for a minute. The guy said something like, "I'd like to have you on my arm and take you to x, y, z to show you off." I stopped dead in my tracks..literally. My first thought was, ok, so what happens to this relationship if I become disfigured..gain weight..lose my hair..wear the wrong thing. No, I'm way to insecure for that type of interaction. I felt like a sparkly new watch and I felt terribly devalued as a person. Definitely wasn't for me.  

     
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    Blessed Place (wall)    UK   Sun/ Ven/ Merc in Cap, Moon in Taurus, Virgo Asc. Chinese: wood Rooster

    Well it's always a bit like that when a man pursues a woman at the start isn't it? Then it's up to the woman, how to respond. If I felt ALL they wanted was a trophy, I took my ball home and wouldn't play!

    But if you are quite attractive, and make the best of yourself as I was/did, you get a lot of this - and you might as well enjoy it as not, hahaha!

    Venus conjunct Sun, House 5  wink

     
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    treehugginmama (wall)       Aries sun. Gem moon. Scorpio ASC. Leo Mars/MC. Taurus Venus

    Never. I have some kind of fortress around me that keeps out that kind of stuff. Venus in Taurus on the DC, for what it's worth...alsoa Scorpio rising. Maybe people just don't want to mess with me? Whatever it is, I have never had to fend a guy off lol They've approached me, but respectfully.

     

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