How were you seen as a child? The astrology behind it?

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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    I had a childhood where I was seen as helpless, hopeless and emotional.  I was the only water sign in a family run by air and no matter what I really was I was seen as this sort of sad case.  In school I was popular and happy and quite the opposite but since they didn't see this person they did not accept me for who I was. I think we often are not seen for who we are as children which is sad.  I think it had to do with my Sun trine Neptune and being a Pisces.

    How were you seen as a child?  Was there a myth surrounding you when you were a child?

     
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    Virgo Avenger (wall)    Tucson Az.   DO NOT BACK-UP, SEVERE TIRE DAMAGE.

    How was I seen as a Child?????

    That about sums it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    oh, me too, VA!  Great visual!

     
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    Caroline (wall)       Gemini Sun Gemini Moon Libra Rising

    Roughly the same at home as at school. I have been well-loved at home, but my parents for a long time seemed to view me a bit with rose-colored glasses (Neptune on the IC). Outside of home, I have been more rebellious. I was for the most part well-liked at school, but a bit of an outsider because I just have never been too deeply embedded in the mainstream and maybe it's 'cause I've always had brains and my fellow students didn't like that, I don't know. 

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    I have seen, Caroline, that when a child is smart they can be picked on and have few friends. It seems to change in college where smarts matter. I'm sorry you had  such an experience but it will pay off in your adult life!  Smart children just  get picked on. I managed to get good grades and still be popular but I was a hell raiser.

     
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    surd (wall)    India   Sun Aqua,Leo Moon, Asc Scorpio (Earth Goat)

    Very well mannered, intelligent and bold. age has done enough damage :).

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    That sounds like you were seen in a good light as a child, surd! How nice for you!  Parents certainly matter!

     
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    Caroline (wall)       Gemini Sun Gemini Moon Libra Rising

    Haha, Annalisa :) I think it's possible I may have easily fallen into the teacher's pet position, but I never deliberately tried to be. I was always just very interested in what the teacher was saying and I had some great teachers whom I found interesting. I pretty much never got in trouble.

    I also was raised by my mother who is not from this country, so I think that was another factor that set me up for being different from kids at school. I have a 9th house Moon.

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    I know what you mean about "teachers pet." I had that label but bucked it well when I was a child.  I'm sure you were just  showing your brains then and children don't know  how to handle a smart child. Now it is much better since there is so much competition in schools for good grades.  The last time I taught it was the popular children that were fighting for good grades.

     
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    surd (wall)    India   Sun Aqua,Leo Moon, Asc Scorpio (Earth Goat)

    I was just lucky and had a mother who trained me well, she taught me how to fit into the world well and i learnt how not to become a mould. my worldly blessings are completly due to my mother. I was extremly talkative and used to get into innocent mischiefs but never went overboard and was good judge of how to sense the mood in my surroundings. How pompous of me saying so many nice nice things about myself :). 1 thing i missed was to be a rebel that took off in my late teens. 

     
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    LisLioness (wall)    New Jersey   Shining Star/Miss Manners/Conquistador

    I was the apple of my parents' eye.  To some teachers and other kids (mainly goody two shoes ones), I was a PITA who was full of myself.

    That was the genesis of my lifelong issues with jealous people "trying to put my light out".

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    How lucky you  have such a mother! It can make a child's life so much better to have a wonderful mother, surd!  So you did some rebeling as a teen?

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    That's just wrong, LisLioness! You must have been a joy! Children can be jealous, this is true.

     
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    surd (wall)    India   Sun Aqua,Leo Moon, Asc Scorpio (Earth Goat)

    Yes i think i realised much later that i was blessed in this way, even if neglected on many others. as far as rebelling goes, yeah i did my share of things and still do. 

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    I never would have guessed, Surd, you are always so  kind and well mannered here!  Good to know you have some fun!

     
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    LisLioness (wall)    New Jersey   Shining Star/Miss Manners/Conquistador

    To show you how crazy the situation was, I had stupid kids AND even stupider adults holding what I did when I was 5 against me when I was 16 or 17.

    No wonder I have such a strong dislike of willfully stupid people!

     
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    Annalisa (wall)    Tucson, AZ  

    Wow, lislioness! That is quite the grudge!  I can't imagine children of that age judging that way. I'm sorry this happened.

     
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    Josi (wall)    in the sky with diamonds   Balancing Sun, Sink or Swim Moon, Eccentric Rising

    I asked my mom this once and she said, "You were a very willful and imaginative child."

    Other than that comment, I really don't know. I always had good feedback from teachers.

     
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    LisLioness (wall)    New Jersey   Shining Star/Miss Manners/Conquistador

    I also remember my mom running into the elementary school principal at the grocery store - she HATED me - when I just went into HS.

    My mom had the pleasure of informing this woman that I was a straight B student in middle school, and I'd been admitted to a hard to get into Catholic high school.

    That was a great day for my mom.

    Even now, at the ripe old age of 41, I love shoving things like this into idiots' faces.  It drives them up the wall that they can't knock this Leo down.

     
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    sunnysadge (wall)       Sun Sag Moon Pisces Rising Cap

    I was seen as a person who is fragile but didn't need help. The truth is I wasn't fragile just I needed help. But I think I was actually invisible to most people, even when I did achieve alot of things school and I was actually the loudest. People took no notice or didn't take the time.

     
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    Glenn (wall)    rural Illinois   scorpio sun , virgo ascendant , pisces moon , chinese : water rabbit

    VA sums it up for me as well.... but add "fragile as egg shells" to the list. I'll blame it on my Moon. My Scorpio energy want to go back to those people for a little pay-back.... but here's hoping that Karma & School of Hard Knocks served it in years gone by. Now if only I can get beyond the feelings....

     
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    Demelza (wall)    Atop the Blueridge   Beware of Madcow

    I was viewed as and expected to be the adult in the scenario from the time I was able to walk....that has never changed, to this day.  My Pisces mother couldn't deal with life's harsh realities, so I dealt with them for us all....the Family Matriarch at 9 years of age.

    Cancer Moon, Capricorn Saturn

     
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    kr (wall)       Cancer Sun, Virgo Asc, Aquarius Moon

    Jeez, Demelza, I could have written exactly that, but my mother is a Scorpio. I have Cancer sun and Saturn.

     
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    le_soleil (wall)    love wins  

    I had a similar issue to Demelza's, by virtue of having emotional cripples for parents. I was always the one everyone was leaning on, and even used as their moral compass at times; and then beat down for 'having an ego'. Contradictions abounded...

    Also, there was this issue with labeling us kids. I was reading entire books from the time I was three years old, went to gifted programs, skipped a grade in school, etc. So I was labelled 'the Brain'. My younger sister, on the other hand, was labelled 'the Beauty.' This was errant in its limitations on both counts, because I was very pretty (redhead !); and my sister, while beautiful, was also a mathematical genius ! So really, we're equals, but the parents put us in their own ideal compartments; while neglecting half out innate gifts. So unfair to us both.

    My biggest error though, was being sensitive (trine in Water) on top of failing to be born with a penis. My father expected me to fight the kids that were (constantly) bullying me -- from elementary school, on, mind you, to 'sack up'; and basically be the male child that was tragically lost before I was born (with n. Neptune/Scorp., 3rd house - wearing the shadow of a deceased sibling). I'm sure that my conception was intentional, but the real intention was to get a replacement boy, but they got me, a sensitive, artistic girly-girl; instead. Too bad.

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    I don't think this was static in my case. I stood in for whatever was needed and what was needed changed frequently.

    Overall, I spent most my time in the shadow. No surprise there.

    I think I exist to be used for the most part. I no longer resist this.

     
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    dorchid (wall)       Virgo Sun | Leo Moon | Scorpio Rising

    i can understand elsa's perspective. i was seen as various things, some conflicted each other. in the end i've embraced all these sides of myself. i don't think i was in the shadow most of the time, but there was definitely some kind of projection going on. it is probably neptune trine midheaven. the negative things people thought about me, i let fade away. while the positive feedback i got still remains to inspire and encourage me through the hard times.

    • my siblings alternately treated me as the brat, the genius, the raging psychopath, the oversensitive mama's girl, the creative one.
    • teachers saw me as a [surname] because my family was known. they thought i was responsible and smart, and i was :) i used to resent it, but now i'm proud of it.
    • i was the boss's daughter. doted on, feared, and some kind of a specimen they were curious about
    • interestingly, i have NO idea what my dad thought about me as an individual. not one single clue. i think this is a good thing actually. it makes me think he believed in me, that he thought i could be anyone i wanted to be and so felt no need to tell me 'who i am'
    • but growing up, being as confused as i was, it was my older virgo brother who gave me positive feedback when i needed it the most. he would remind me that the nasty kids at school were just temporary, that i had potential to move onto better, greater things.
    • plus i had two art teachers who really liked me. i felt like they saw who i really was.
     
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    Ad Astra (wall)    Pacific Coast/Atlantic Coast   Aqua sun/venus, Gem moon, Taurus rising

    Well, not just as a child, but authority figures, my parents, etc have always seen me as a "golden child" of sorts due to my intelligence.  I always excelled in school and was able to get away with things because of it (not anything malicious, just things like always being late:x).  My parents always told me I could do anything in life, so did my teachers, I tended to be the teacher's pet.  My teachers wanted me to go to the GATE school and I went through all the testing but my parents didn't want to put too much pressure on me (they both had a lot of pressure in childhood and wanted to let me be a kid)  I could have used the discipline LOL

    Astrology? Air grand trine

     
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    Kashmiri (wall)       Earth on Fire

    How I was seen varied depended on who was looking but the over arching sentiment was "too sensitive." I have an active Neptune in my 12th and it crossed my ASC when I was still a child and then began to transit my 1st, where my Moon is. Everyone in my family as well as teachers etc worried about how sensitive I was, they didn't see me as tough at all. But everyone used to comment on how I bounced back (Jupiter ruled chart).

    My chart is very integrated (most planets aspect the other planets and more often than not, not minor aspects). So I can look at certain phases of my life and see how the outer transits played out. I think this was a Neptune issue.

    I was absolutely teacher's pet and actively pursued it. All through elementary school I made it my goal to be perfect and my goal was to get the academic award for top achiever and most almost every year I got it.

    If I could analyze my motivation as an adult, I can see I just wanted to be acknowledged. Period. HS was a world apart. Academically I started crashing early on, developed suicidal depression and bulimia before quitting school in Grade 10 and leaving home.

    Then, Pluto was working over my Sun. People saw me as a depressed morose soul who was never going to get better. My family gave up on me and almost everyone wrote me letters telling me as much.

     
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    le_soleil (wall)    love wins  

    @Kashmiri -- Damn. So glad you're alright, now. : )

     
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    Kashmiri (wall)       Earth on Fire

    Jupiter!! LOL.

    I love being an adult because I am free to be myself:)

     
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    Solaire (wall)    Rijeka,Croatia   I balance, I will, I think

    Kindergarten: Saturn was first opposing Jupiter and afterwards my Sun.I was extremely shy and afraid of standing up for myself.As a result I let everyone use me,treat me badly and be the boss of me to the point of crossing all boundaries (Saturn) and magnifying (Jupiter) my bruises,all of which sabotaged my confidence (Sun).

    Elementary school:The aspects changed but all of the above mentioned continued.Although eventually I became independent and a loner.That's when Uranus hit my DESC in Aqua,but that was only the seed.The real rebellious personality surfaced when Neptune was on my DESC confused

    High school: Saturn in Virgo in my first.Serious,detached,cold,hard-working,nerd,mature.Just combine Virgoan qualities with the Saturnian and you got the picture.When Saturn moved from Virgo to Libra I relaxed a bit.Though it will soon conjunct my Sun..so that's another personality shift I'm looking forward too.

    Anyways the shift went from extremely shy to outspoken and courageous (that's their word not mine).I guess it fits perfectly to a 12H Leo rising

     
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    Bella (wall)       libra asc, sun, merc, venus, saturn, pluto - pisces moon - sagittarius mars, uranus, neptune - scorpio jupiter

    As an adult, always. Since my very early chilhood. (Saturn on asc)

     
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    mirkwood (wall)    New York   Leo Sun, Aquarius Moon, Sagittarius Asc

    Happy / self-entertained / self-reliant. 

     
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    strawb. (wall)       Virgo Sun, Gemini Moon, Libra Rising

    I was seen as happy, bubbly, and blissfully unaware... but it wasn't true. I explain it by having a leo midheaven and libra ascendant.. (happy, sunny disposition) but in fact having lots of planets in virgo with mercury and venus in 12th as well an outrageous number of squares in my chart - deep down, I was always much more sensitive and insecure than I appeared. No one knew the internal struggles that went on inside... and at home. No matter how bad things were, people always seemed to think I was this happy person with no problems.

     
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    venusflytrp (wall)       virg-ittarius rex

    I was the achiever - straight A's, skipped a grade in math, advanced classes even in elementary school. Luckilyi never had people hold it against me - had a great group of friends. But I think part of what drove me was a desire to make my parents happy. They were always fighting so Ioften had the sense that any misbehavior on my part would break them.

     
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    stellia (wall)    Hull, The North, UK   Bullish, proud and quirky : Tau-Leo-Aqua

    When I was v small - less than 3 - I was seen as angry and brooding and stubborn. I have tau sun, leo moon (and mars) and aqua rising so that's the stubborn sorted.

    Aged 4 -10 I was extrovert - always centre of attention, I was bright and enthusiastic at school, well-behaved, kind, outgoing and sporty. Maybe they were my leo years...

    Around age 10 I started getting bullied, and became withdrawn. I was still sporty but became quiet... also was lazy because *and I hate saying this* but I was smart enough to not work. I think I was bored stiff.

    That lasted through the teenage years. I isolated myself almost completely - aqua south node and rising.

    This has only recently started to shift back and I'm coming out of myself again more since my SR.

     

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