Does anybody have any insight on the Jupiter Conjunct Saturn (10th house) aspect? Is it positive or negative? I've heard both. 

It is both- or at least it can be both. I'd suggest looking at the sign, house and any aspects the conjunction may have. If you do a search on this website, there are some helpful past topics about jupiter-saturn.

I suspect its good. I notice that when I read astrology other conjunctions are bad but not those involving jupiter.

 http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/jupitersaturnaspects.html

 link does not seem to be working...sorry. It sounds like an excellent aspect.

It is the signature of a teacher/preacher.  BIG SHOES you have to grow into.

You would make a good business person. Jupiter knows when to expand, and cautious Saturn knows when to just sit on assets and be patient. Jupiter conjunct Saturn also endows you with a lot of common sense and practicality.

Elsa is it the same for the trine? I have that I do not know what it means

I like to think of it as the Michael Scott aspect.  Seriously Ridiculous at times, Ridiculously Serious at others. 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWIpxhvUZIE&feature=related

The two planets are a natural pair. They balance each other like Venus/Mars or the Sun and the Moon. There is a book.

The Jupiter/Saturn Conference Lectures (Lectures on Modern Astrology)

The aspect gets better with age. If you have the conjunction in Libra, your Saturn return will be when you step into the shoes. They will scare you at first.

toomuch - yes and no. A trine is not a conjunction but you do have the planets working together. :)

thanx

Sometimes I get so confused. I thought a trine was the most harmonious/good aspect to have *scratched head* does not matter because i dont know what the aspect means any way....lol

 The way things been going lately it cant be all that good...lol

something about lazy and thinking others are better than u.....

Also, the harder you work, the luckier you get. ;-)

I think Monica has this aspect -- you here, miss Monica?

Elsa, how will I know when my Saturn return is, (or will be??)

http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swepha_e.htm

check this year and next (if Saturn is in Libra) - your saturn return is when Saturn in the sky is in the same place it was when you were born.

If this is confusing, put your chart up and we'll tell you. :)  Or just your birthdate will work too

Yours is starting, If I remember correctly.  I think you said in a different thread that your birthday is about a week before mine.

It IS confusing. PLEEEEAAASE tell me.

september 23, 1981, 1:59 pm, pittsburgh, pa

Notatirem, i left a post, and you remembered? I'm flattered! Our returns are starting around the same time? We're like return sibs or something! Here there, return sistah! Lets DO this!!!

Yeah, thats why I remembered, we're almost star twinkies.  Mine is on the 30th.  Close to same everything, but moon/merc in scorpio, leo rising.

I can't see the image you posted, so here...

Oct/Nov 2010

 Also there is a station (very concentrated) May 2011.

Saturn is on your sun right now. 

Elsa, what is a station?

Just looked up the "station" thing. Thanks guys! Never realized my reckonin' with fate was so close! Hope I'm ready!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0skZvqLTiw&feature=related

This is my official dance for the coming year. 

Wow, thank you Elsa for the explanation! That sounds fascinating. Teacher/preacher, big shoes, and starting with Saturn Return... kind of scary, sounds like big responsibility.

I have that conjunction too. Jupiter's at 2'25'' degrees Libra and Saturn at 4'37'' degrees Libra. My Saturn Return is taking place Sept 5th-6th. Can you tell me when it'll finally be finished? Or do you need a chart for that?

My Saturn Return is taking place Sept 5th-6th. Can you tell me when it'll finally be finished?

ScorpioMoonGirl, the bad news is that your Saturn Return has been going on since December 2009; the good news is that the return ends Sept. 6th. (Well, the last pass of Saturn over natal Saturn is the 6th, the effects of the transit will persist for a bit after that.)

max
[It's all good, really.']

Thanks Max!

Ironically, that was what started me on astrology in the first place. Ever since the last days of October 2009 - beginning of November 2009 things just kept happening, I was taking hits on all areas of my life! I won't go into detail here but it was crazy, like nothing ever before. Even a co-worker of mine said: "Wow, that's really strange, it feels like everything is changing for you. You really have had your share of misfortune lately."  

So that's why I thought, partly as a joke, to make a chart of mine on astro.com and ask people what was causing it. And everybody immediately said, "Oh, it's your Saturn Return." I had never heard of such a thing, so I googled and was like "Wow, that explains a lot"

I'm glad I did, because I understood what was happening better, and it really got me thinking about things in my life that weren't working, and gave me strenght to end them. Otherwise maybe I would have resisted change.

But, now I am feeling differently than before that. I kind of feel like "If I survived that, I can survive anything." Like I really discovered my own strength for the first time.

Ever since the last days of October 2009 - beginning of November 2009 things just kept happening, I was taking hits on all areas of my life! I won't go into detail here but it was crazy, like nothing ever before.

 Saturn stationed direct at 4Lib39 on January 14 right on top of your Saturn at 4Lib37. That was the first and second pass of your Saturn return. Saturn move into Libra October 28th, so that within 5 degrees of orb there when it started hitting you. It's in orb again, so any final pass Saturn return effects should start showing up now and peaking on September 5th.

I kind of feel like "If I survived that, I can survive anything." Like I really discovered my own strength for the first time.

There are actually worse things than a Saturn return, like a Saturn/Saturn square or opposition, but the first Saturn return scares the pants off of most people. There are worse things - Pluto transits can be rough, in particular.

max
['Yer welcome.']

I have a loose Saturn-Jupiter conjunction in Virgo in the sense that both are conjunct the Ascendant (Jupiter in the 12th house, Saturn in the first).

 I have to say I have loved my Saturn return, for the most part.

I mean, it was undeniably hard work (I was parenting a two year old, pregnant and ill, while working and studying part-time) BUT I loved what I was studying (I was finishing my training as a therapist) so it didn't feel like a chore. It was hard work, there was a lot to learn and a lot that required you to leave my ego at the door and be willing to be wrong time and time again. In some ways it did feel like going up to the ring for a boxing match BUT I knew I was sparring with friendly opponents. Sure, it wasn't comfortable, but there were supportive structures to help me and no one was breaking my teeth. They were just helping me grow into my best self.

I've always found Saturn transits really helpful if you are not trying to run away from them. I hope it works out that way for you.

so what about Jupiter/Saturn conjunct in Cap in the seventh?  Lucky or unlucky?  That aspect confuses me...and seems like a kind of joyless joy...

Hey Guys,

I have Saturn R/Jupiter in a very tight conjunction in Libra (9.46 and 10.05 degrees) in 7th house....and the combination aspects lot of my personal planets.........it squares Cappy Venus (13 degrees), trines Aqua Sun in 11th and Trines Mars/Mercury conjunction in Aqua in 12th house..

Yes I am very near to the Saturn Return start........

Does the Mutual reception between Saturn/Venus decrease the difficulties of a square???

Yes with Jupiter conjunct Saturn ......the miracles and lucky breaks doesn't happen...but there is luck in Saturnian fields like hard work, conservative approach, integrity and maybe age...

When we say age do we mean mid 30s or 40+???

Another problem with this is that people say you will get hot girls when you old.....since you never got any when you were young you always have the desire subdued......bt if you get into a permanent committed relationship you cant have that at 40?? 

Yes I am very near to the Saturn Return start...

It's already started. But the Saturn return is stil easier than the square and the opposition so it's not the worst thing in the world.

Does the Mutual reception between Saturn/Venus decrease the difficulties of a square???

I would say no. Venus is weak in Cap, and Saturn is strong in Libra; while the reception stengthens both planets, Saturn is still much stronger, so Venus is still overgunned. That's not going to reduce the effects of the square except by eliminating all the pleasant stuff Venus brings.

but there is luck in Saturnian fields like hard work, conservative approach, integrity and maybe age... When we say age do we mean mid 30s or 40+???

Sure, but it means any age. With Saturn, the older you are, the better off you are (well, until your health completely craps out). Perhaps it would better to say the older you are the wiser you are, if you have good Saturn. But since you have Jupiter conjunct, you're probably doing OK. You should start seeing the benefits of Jupiter real soon now, at least more so than in the past. What Saturn has been teaching you is how to get the benefits of Jupiter via patience. 

max
['Never heard the thing about hot girls, sorry...']

thanks Max.............till now its all been Saturn crap.............It screws up Venus but it makes a nice trine to 7th ruler Mercury........so I hope for some balance......though it can mean better business relationships rather than personal ones:(