Is There Something In Our Charts That Keeps Us In Denial?

posted 6 months ago in Love, Sex and Relationships
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    1.
    VespaChick

    I just informed my ex-boyfriend that I have a new one...he refuses to believe me! He's a Libra, if that matters. He thinks I'm making it up--to "punish" him in some way? I guess he cannot imagine I would have ever fallen out of love with him.

    But are there some signs that tend toward denial? I'm thinking especially the wives who tend to turn a blind eye when faced with a cheating husband. Why are some of us so eager to uncover the truth, and others so eager to put our heads back into the sand?

    Where is this usually indicated in our charts?

     
    2.
    SaDiablo

    Neptune to personal planet maybe?  The ability to erase at will?

     
    3.
    VespaChick

    So which ones? Neptune in...? i am sure I don't have it. But aren't all of us in a certain generation Neptune in Scorpio? Perhaps Neptune in Libra would be more likely to want peace and remain in denail?

     
    4.
    SaDiablo

    I dunno, I've not studied enough to have a firm grip on it.  Though I wouldn't necessarily be looking at sign placement foremost, but aspects to planets and house placement.  Like, maybe Neptune in 7th or a Neptune-Venus contact (foggy relationships).  If he's able to delude himself about a lot of things, not just you having a new beau, I'd say it'd be prominent, like maybe Neptune-Sun or -Moon.

    But that's just my best guess.  Hopefully some of the others who are more knowlegable will weigh in.  *smiles*

     
    5.
    VespaChick

    He does have delusional thinking. It may show in his chart too. I'll put it here in case it helps. He's actually like no one you'd EVER meet. Very sweet person, but extremely eccentric. He's also the one with OCD that I mentioned in the other post I made on Lateness. He's originally from Bulgaria. Libra. Very striking looks and voice. Actually, that's him beside me in my profile picture. We broke up this past spring but are still friends...well, if you ask him, we're still kind of together, I think? Though he has noticed I have not been my usual frisky self! Vespa Chick has gone from X-rated to G-rated since he last saw her! He is still scratching his head on that one!

    http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/page?name=Dari&firstname=&birthplace=Sofia&lang=en&dformat=0&date=9/25/1973&time=15:15&country=359&state=0&adjust=-2.00&long=-23.20&lat=42.45

     
    6.
    SaDiablo

    Yeah, I'd think it was the Sun-Neptune sextile.  I have this, but trined, and I know that I can talk myself into believing just about anything for a while (too much Pluto and water to fool myself forever).

    What's the synastry between you two?  Do  you know if Neptune is prominent in composite?

     
    7.
    VespaChick

    What's the synastry between you two?  Do  you know if Neptune is prominent in composite?

    I don't know what that means. Should I do a chart of us both? We were not that compatible in Western nor Vedic as I recall. I am not meant to be married at all. Though when he and I were together we were very much in love. Together for about 3 years; lived together for part of that time. The parents interfered way too much, but now REALLY want me to go back to him.

     
    8.
    SaDiablo

    Okay, if I remember it right, a composite is the midpoint placements between each of your planets (add your sun to his sun, divide by two, repeat for each planet, point, etc.) and I've heard it described as the chart of your relationship: you two will always have the same basic, underlying foundation and that's the composite.  (I think.  Like I said, I'm still learning.)  Synastry is when you put your two charts together, one on top of the other (no adding or anything), and look at how your planets mix and mingle and influence the other's.  It's like a map of how you two will interact.

    I don't know where it is on CafeAstrology, but I know there's a pretty good section on both composites and synastry (esp. synastry) and a place you can get the chart drawn.  I like using Astro.com, though, because I can save people's data, they have an extensive chart selection for free, and a lot of charts come with clickable descriptions for us newbies.

     
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    10.
    VespaChick

    Here's for me and the double scorpio (He told me that it is possible the time of birth is wrong and he's not a double scorpio, but he sure acts like one).

    http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=0&ast=&gm=a1&sday=27&btyp=61&syr=2009&go.x=21&lang=&zod=&go.y=8&orbp=&mth=at&cid=po3fileWKPPf7-u1216419668&hsy=-1&smon=8&nhor=1&nho2=13&go.x=27&go.y=5

    Back to denial....I am the one in denial about this one with the Scorpio even working out! Oh well...I welcome any brutal input.

     
    11.
    SaDiablo

    Okay, I'll take a look when I get home.  Playtime at work is over, everyone else is starting to arrive.    I'll be able to check it out and let you know what I see approx. 7:30 est.

     
    12.
    SaDiablo

    Well, speaking just about denial and what-not, because I'm no good at interpreting the whole chart, with Dari:

    Your Neptune is conjunct his Venus (what he looks for in a woman), so in a sense he can project whatever he wants onto you and it'll stick.  Occasionally the fog will lift and things will be seen clearly, but eventually it'll roll back in and the projections can continue unless shaken at their core.  Interestingly, though, his Neptune is conjunct your Mars (what you look for in a man), so in a very real sense you can also do the same to him!

    Between the two of you, either one can make the other into whatever they want (in your own minds).

    Can't think of anything to add to that, so I'll just shut up.  *lol*  You might want to make a new post about you and double-Scorp, although I'll BBL to check that chart out.

     
    13.
    persian_cat

    Careful with Neptune. It backfires.

    I think it best to look into conjunctions and oppositions with Neptune. That probably give you a straight answer.

     
    14.
    VespaChick

    SaDiablo,

    That so explains my whole relationship with Dari. It is like we were both in a fog, then came out of it, and HE WENT BACK IN! OMG! I keep trying to remind him that he was the one who told me we were not right for each other! Though we were SO IN LOVE at one time!

    As for Raul, the scorpio, he is now giving me the cold shoulder because he is convinced I've come back to Dari just because I'm back in DC for a couple of weeks. I was a bit mysterious a about my departure. I almost didn't even tell him I was leaving, because I KNEW he would worry I'd cheat on him. He bascially accused me before I left and has not called me nor answered my one call tonight. I've been gone a week, but I did send him an 8page love letter.  I think he's trying to punish me as usual. We had just gotten back together after a 3 week break-up (I was tired of crap always being late!) But then he immediately tried talking about LIVING TOGETHER???  We weren't talking--he avoided me, because I was mad at him. Then we get back, and now this! Sometimes, I just want to strangle the guy! Argh!

    Any help with this one is greatly appreciated! Maybe I should make a whole new post asking for help.

     
    15.
    SaDiablo

    Yeah, I vote make a new post about Raul.  I just took a look at the chart and nothing jumped out at me, which means I'm about useless on the astrological side of it.  *laughs*  I would note, however, that he has three planets in Scorp and Scorps place a lot of value on loyalty.  So, judging from the fact that this man was born in the late fifties, in Mexico, and has Scorp Sun/Mars, I'd say that any disloyalty, even perceived disloyalty, will take him quite some time to make peace with.

    And that's all I've got to say about that.

     
    16.
    Piya

    Why are you running around telling your ex boyfriend that you have a new one?

     
    17.
    VespaChick

    We're friends. His parents are trying awfully hard to get me back.  They are actually having his house rebuilt to be larger for him (and his "wife). They took us both out to an expensive dinner last weekend; taking us to the Kennedy Center tomorrow AND visiting me and my parents next month  when I'm back home in San Diego.

    They are all very eccentric Eastern Europeans. I'm the only serious girlfriend he has ever. had. I don't think he even wants them to know we're not really together anymore--not sure they are sure what is going on. But it's up to him to tell them. I almost did. On the same note, I'm not leading them on. Just letting him deal with them.

     

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