Mercury Pluto conjunct in Capricorn square Saturn - December 7, 2009

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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    I realized I was hijacking Jilly's Mercury Pluto dream thread so decided to start a general thread on this topic because this is a hell a day we're headed into.

    Things around here have been incredible. I mentioned some of the manifestations in my personal life on Jilly's thread but thought of another.

    My (Mercury-ruled) neighborhood is dying. It is degrading before my eyes. Anyone who could leave would leave at this point, including me but we are stuck here because Vid's father is nearby.

    In whatever case, I had cause to be somewhere today that made it very apparent the neighborhood is going down and frankly, I think it will likely not recover in my lifetime... or at least while I still live here. I am not sure if I will get out or not and it doesn't really matter all that much. I mean, we will either make it to the desert or we won't but my son sure drew a short stick here.

     This stuff is on his IC (home) squaring his Moon (home).  people want his mother to die (see other thread) and the only place he has ever known as home is decaying by the day.

    What's going on with you?

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZarmRLa2p9Q

    going down

    Sorry about your neighborhood Elsa :( - that happened to me when Pluto and Saturn were on my MC. Ended up being in the last graduating class of my HS because everyone who could, moved. About 90 people in my class.

     
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    I can relate to the "stuck" feeling because I am also confined to my area due to my son's father.  Like Vid, I have this on my angles, with Saturn on my IC and Pluto on my DC.  Uranus is going to cross my MC, and it's because of a career change that I need to be free to move.  Saturn, Pluto, and Uranus are actually going to make a giant grand cross with my Mars in Cancer.  Yikes.

    That is a terrible fate for your neighborhood.  Will QA's parents leave, too?  I am sorry for the randoms wishing harm on you.  :(  My ex, er, open enemy, is the Pluto figure attempting destruction of me right now.  Court tomorrow (more Saturn).

     
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    alicia (wall)    Boston   Pisces Sun Cancer Moon Taurus Asc

    Good luck Jessica!

    The Merc/Pluto transit is in my 8th house and I'm feeling...frustrated all around. Energy is WILD around me, I'm easily frustrated with the man (he could say hi and I would freak out on him, this is going on in his 7th house opposing his moon/jupiter) and I had dreams last night about my family's finances (I shit you not). Weird! Crazy old 8th house. Next on the list, a brush with mortality?

     
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    Lupa (wall)    Suwanee, GA   Gemini sun, Scorpio moon/asc

    Mercury/Pluto are in my 2nd house.  Saturn in the 11th.  I have Venus at 4 degrees Cancer in the 8th but it is well aspected in my chart.  Death is all around me but not currently affecting my loved ones.  

    Saturday at the kennel we had our first dog death.  It was the most horrible thing I've experienced at work and I hope it never happens again.  We have an open daycare/boarding kennel so dogs play together.  They are dogs so sometimes behave unpredictably.  A dog we know well and who has never been aggressive killed another little dog.  I had to rush her to the emergency vet with one teenage employee holding her and the other one running the shop.  The dog was calm by that time and not in any apparent pain, just shock.  She died shortly after we got her to the hospital.  

    I think I'm having some ptsd symptoms because I haven't been sleeping well all week and when the bather called me back to look at a tick on a dog in the bath I nearly fainted from relief that that's what it was.  I told them all to tell me "Nobody died but come here" if they need me again.  

    Yesterday I went to work to find that a very good (human) client died two weeks ago in a scuba diving accident.  His wife brought their dog in and told us what had happened because her husband had always brought the dog in.  She said their dog sits and stares at his side of the bed and waits for his return.  :(

    Yesterday afternoon I took my daughter into Atlanta to a neighborhood called Little Five Points to a very cool piercing studio and we got our noses pierced.  The piercing tech came out talking to a client and when he left she was obviously moved.  She said "He just tipped me a hundred bucks.  He only has six months to live."  

    I am starting to feel reluctant to leave the house. 

     
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    alicia (wall)    Boston   Pisces Sun Cancer Moon Taurus Asc

    Aww....(((Lupa)))

     
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    mudlikesubstance (wall)    minnesota   Taurus sun/Virgo moon/ Gemini Asc.

    Pluto transiting my 8th house for the next whatever number of years.  YEARS.  I'm stressed.  It's an empty house but will soon set up for a nice grand cross with my t-squares.  Transiting Pluto as the filler for a grand cross.  I have no idea what this will bring.  Yes, probably need to talk to Elsa.  Just lots of stress around me with NO downtime and no time to figure out what to focus upon. 

     
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    Dorothy (wall)    Long Island   Leo Sun Scorp Moon Scorp Rising

    Pluto just started long transit of my third.  I know my thoughts have been pretty intense - I think this house also pertains to neighbors/neighborhood, as well as siblings.  Nothing much happening in my neighborhood now, but I know this is going to be a long transit.  Honestly, Pluto in my 2nd just totally sucked, so I am not all that nervous about it's journey into my third, or I should say I know all the shit I have all ready survived, so, I just have to be confident that I can keep on going.

     
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    opal (wall)      

    On my IC squaring my ascendant.  Probably be another case of bigmouth strikes again.  That's if my car (mercury) survives all its full moon traumas from this week. (Driven into flood, drivers window breaking in the pouring rain, burny exhaust smells, on successive days.  I'm thinking of trading it in for a horse.)

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    ((Lupa))

     
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    Dorothy (wall)    Long Island   Leo Sun Scorp Moon Scorp Rising

    Just read your post Lupa - gee, what a hell of a week. 

     Sorry you went through all that.....

     

     
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    Lupa (wall)    Suwanee, GA   Gemini sun, Scorpio moon/asc

    It continues to be bizarre but not nearly so tragic.  I have the weekend with no kids and John doesn't go to work til Sunday afternoon so I'm happy to have two evenings alone with my man.  

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    I put up a new transit watch on this, live in an hour and as soon as i did I read Tom Brokaw and his wife were in a fatal car accident (the other person not him) - it's wicked out there.

     

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    Hope my guineafowl will be OK - they are going in the coop Sunday.... I assume Virgo rules poultry/farm birds? Sigh.

     
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    Beth (wall)       virgo sun sag moon scorp rising

    Ouch. It's never nice to see things going downhill, but hopefully you and Vid will come out on top.

     What I see? In hard times people like to stick to what they know. I have a hunch there will be more bigotry, people more likely to stick to their own kind.

     (I would like to be wrong about this).

     Besides spraining a hand, I and my family are well, though. Something I'm very glad of.

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    Beth, I agree with you. There is already more bigotry.  I moved here specifically for the integration this city offered. At the time, we were the most racially integrated city in the county!  It was a wonderful social experiment - bliss to me but it has degraded. Man, oh man, it's like night and day from 10 years ago or even 5 or even 3 or 2.

    Very definitely people have pulled away from each other- it is exactly as you describe and SCARY.

    I have loved living here. I no longer feel that way. This is rapidly becoming a place you want to get out of alive. Not that it can't swing back. There is still a chance... I can see a scenario where we might be saved.

     
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    isabelle (wall)    new york  

    ((( Lupa )))

     
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    what a week! big hugs to everyone!

    Beth and Elsa I am seeing that too! I am feeling like if/when it gets worse I will want to take my children and leave the country. I have no idea where to go.

     
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    I'm really sorry people are having such a tough time:( (((everybody)))

    Lupa I was just thinking that this morning: "man, I wish I didn't have to leave the house."

    Tonight I am going to an all you can eat CHOCOLATE buffet. I figure that's worth leaving it for.:) then straight to my lover's to be wrapped up and tucked away in his arms for the night.

    My cat's off to the vet tomorrow, and I'm really hoping she will come out clear. She's been ill. 

     

     
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    Man I am such a Taurus it's embarrassing. Feed me and screw me and suddenly I have no problems. Ha ha ha

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    kash - I can relate!

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    hahaha 14 days. I have an advent calendar of sorts going.

     
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    Shannon (wall)    sunny Los Angeles   Gem/Sag/Gem zoom zoom zoom!

    LOL Kashmiri - I'm not a Taurus but those work pretty well for me, too.

     

    (((Elsa)))

     

    (((Lupa)))

     
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    Liz (wall)    Ottawa   Sun Libra Asc Libra Moon Gemini

    My local area isn't doing badly, but it is a government and rural area. I've been understanding more - and giving respect to - the practical folk who really hold the community together. Hope I'm doing the right thing in building my life here, close to the people who matter.. but also who have the skill to help keep it going. Been feeling that there isn't anywhere else I'd rather be.. although also feel limited since it's a government town - the career/job options can be limited.. a limitation I used to rebel from.. so then you need to build your own career/business.. and ouch that takes time and money and enthusiasm. Guess that's why the grounded energies really take the lead. They are good at getting up in the morning and dealing with reality.

    But there's possibly a price for me.. not having my own sense of security so then not building my own family. I hope to have it come together after my pluto square since pluto rules my 2nd house. Find it all scary but just keep paying attention to what i'm building and hope i'm doing it right.

    I find reading about the horror others are facing hard to hear.. (not that i don't want to.. i come here for a reason) but because pluto is tranisiting my 3rd house.. so instead i'm using the energy to face my own reality and working with it.. because the reality is i don't live in the same community.  

     
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    I've been trying to get communications OUT INTO THE OPEN! I can almost not deal with emails and texts these days?  (Pluto conjunct ASC) I beg people to come and TALK to me facemail but the Mercury in the form of car problems has arisen.

     
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    wow there is lots going on out there. i felt this sort of melancholy influence today but the only response was to pull away from the world, take a bath, listen to music. i seriously feel like a hermit.  merc-pluto is in my fifth house...oh no wait, that's my twelfth house if i use my actual chart.  maybe now this makes some more sense.  hugs to everyone.

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    how is your kitty kashmiri

     
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    she's congested and can't breathe very well but seems to be fine (bloodwork etc) the vet couldn't get her to stop purring to hear her heart so she took her to the water tap--she just purred LOUDER! it was pretty funny...got her some meds...

    when my new man friend comes over i tell her "your boyfriend's here!" and i'm not kidding, she runs for the door to see him. she's like a little dog. thanks for asking:)

     
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    SaDiablo (wall)    Planets in Signs and Houses  

    That's adorable, kash!  Glad your kitty's okay. 

     
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    god, i just woke up and she's hacking like she's a 100 year old woman. i can't wait til the meds kick in, for girl.

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    poor kitty :( our orange kitty is very puppy-like and he talks a lot

    my guineafowl got their coop today. they are freaked out! but they have a poultry palace really.

     

     
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    Shannon (wall)    sunny Los Angeles   Gem/Sag/Gem zoom zoom zoom!

    I feel kind of weird saying that I'm actually doing pretty well.  Things are slow, but I'm making steady progress on my house, which is an ongoing series of projects.  Currently I'm in the middle of painting purple and green stripes on the wall above my fireplace.  Why do I have a fireplace in a city that rarely gets below 50 degrees in the so-called winter?  I don't know, and it's in a weird spot between the living room and the dining room, but I painted it purple.  Yes I did! I must be on a purple kick lately, because I'm redoing the purple highlights (?) in my hair, too. 

    What else in the past week or so?  There's a new man on the scene (OK that's a couple weeks back, but still), another man who had been a bit distant is paying attention again (both good things), and work is going well overall.  My team is mostly distant right now - the boss has had a rash of bad luck, another coworker has been out of state taking care of his father since Labor Day, so I'm getting a lot of the day to day tech support stuff.  I honestly don't mind that much, though.  It gives me a chance to fix things (yay) and be visible in front of the other departments.

    Plus it's the season of holiday parties which means more chances to dance, and that always works for me.

    Maybe I get to be the Gemini comic relief in this thread?  I hope so - something buoyant and sunny and uplifting.  

    Hugs to Kash and Jilly for the critters!

    Oh, obligatory astrology mention:  I've Jupiter in Cap in the 8th in early degrees opposite Mars/Venus conjunct in Cancer in the 2nd all squared up on Pluto in the tail end of Virgo in my 5th.

     

     

     
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    I understand Mercury Pluto is about speaking out the hidden truth, but with Saturn squaring it may hurt, so many will be talking frenetically about someone else instead - as there is a broad offer in the media right now... 

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    Disappeared my story because my friend's sisters and brother are most likely going to be around here and I am not sure how they would feel reading about their sister. 

    I have been looking for her since I came online... find out she is died many years ago today. I always thought she might be because I could never find her, however women marry so may have a different name.

    In whatever case, Mercury rules siblings. I am writing my friend's aunt who is copying my emails to her sibs. I have invited any / all of them to contact me - we'll see.

    It's very heavy however I have a lot of nice things to say about her and nothing but, for that matter.

     
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    Lupa (wall)    Suwanee, GA   Gemini sun, Scorpio moon/asc

    I had a brilliant day today.  I wanted to pick up a knitting project to take with me on the trip to Ireland so I went into a little knitting shop not far from my house.  Turns out the owner has dogs that she desperately needs groomed and she's thrilled to barter with me.  She gets dogs groomed and I get really nice yarn that I wouldn't be able to afford otherwise.

    Everything else has improved.  Kashmiri's self help program worked for me too.  Food and sex.  :) 

     
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    Shannon (wall)    sunny Los Angeles   Gem/Sag/Gem zoom zoom zoom!

    Elsa - the bartender story?  Wow, that's something.  I always kind of wondered what happened to Mary after that.  I hope the communication goes well.

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    She died in a car accident at 27. :(

     
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    Lupa (wall)    Suwanee, GA   Gemini sun, Scorpio moon/asc

    I'm really sorry about your friend Elsa.  I'm sure that was a heavy bit of information to hear. 

     
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    Elsa (wall)    Colorado, USA   Planets in shy

    Well I am just swirling. I forgot the she and the soldier met. I forgot about this intersection... have invited her sibs to write me and they may. I knew her sisters some but may know stuff about her they don't. I don't really know or know what they want to know. I do hear they are curious but jeez.

    I am going to dig out all the pictures I have of her and scan them. I sent her aunt her 1st grade picture today... we met as teens but traded our 1st grade pics. I had that one handy but have to dig for others.

    I also have the last picture I took of her. She looked so beautiful. I told her this and grabbed the camera to capture the moment. I told her aunt this today.... and the mails are copied to her sibs.

     

    ::sighs::

    Anyway, it is a beautiful picture. She is radiant.

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    ((elsa))

     

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