Would that play out a la Neptune on the midheaven, with all kinds of people thinking different things about you? Just wondering.

The ascendant is the me/we axis so it plays in relationship.

Neptune on the MC is at large - a public figure seen by many.

I think the Neptune on ascendant people dress very elegantly and put perfume or cologne on thier bodies.

Neptune 7th house 4 degrees off of exact conjunction with asc.  Plays in relationships is an understatement.  Plays in every personal interaction possible.  Which I think adds up to the group not getting much of anything right about me.

I meet people and the assumptions they make based upon my name, looks, age are all pretty much wrong.  

 I've had relationships where I fight just to "exist" in the relationship.  I think the proper term is "teh sucketh"

I can't imagine the world at large having the same problem with me - yuck is all I can think of...  I like Deirdre's assement of elegant dressing and perfume...  

;)

I have Pisces Ascendant and one girl once told me that I have dreamy eyes. My whole family thinks I'm dreamy and unrealistic, and one person also told me that I act like a gentleman and that I'm always 'somewhere else'.

"The ascendant is the me/we axis so it plays in relationship."

I can really see that Elsa, I often find if I have an argument in a relationship the other person comes back to me and says you said xyz.. and I did not... what I actually said was has been all twisted up.. its like words leave my mouth and morph into something else entirely as they hit the other persons ears.

I try to explain what I did actually say.. but they won't have it.. it is VERY frustrating..

 Another example was a friend wanted me to commit a certain amount of time every week to something. I have a hard time with boundaries so I knew I had to be very clear in my response. I sat down and wrote a reply (that took me about half an hour to get just right) stating several reasons why I would not be able to commit that time. When I received her response I was gobsmacked... she completely dismissed everything I had said as if I had not said it.. and said so shall we set a time for next week then..

Plus.. regarding physical invisibility...  I have to add this because after many years I can now finally see the funny side of it. I can be standing in a large room i.e. airport baggage collection... walking on the pavement...  and invariably there is loads of space around me for other people to walk.. but no.. where do they choose to walk... RIGHT where I am.. and most of the time right into me... it really is like I am not there and they don't see me.. bizarre.

kashmiri.. velcro days is a perfect description!

"I can really see that Elsa, I often find if I have an argument in a relationship the other person comes back to me and says you said xyz.. and I did not... what I actually said was has been all twisted up.. its like words leave my mouth and morph into something else entirely as they hit the other persons ears."

 haha yes

Hi guys  I have an Angular Neptune in the 7th house and Conjunct Uranus in the 7th house and with Neptune being the Most Prominent planet in my chart(Neptunian) I can totally relate to the Projection side of the deal.

Many many people have never accurately described me. No one but, my best friend also psychic(moon in cancer and Gemini(like me! although I have Moon in pisces)) understands me.

I feel that most Neptunians are totally unstable and may even feel invisible which I do sometimes but, it's not that people don't physically notice me.

It's more of the Mental connection I look for. Emotional and psychical.

I think that with a predominance of Capricorn(although Pisces makes a close second)

And a Jupiter influence coming second to Neptune I am grounded and able to express hmm... the sensitivity I get from the Neptunian influence.

I have a good friend with Neptune rising in the 1st house and he is away with the fairies!  Honestly, he lives in a world of his own where everything and everyone is wonderful and he does not want to know anything else. He's also very artistic and really sweet. (Neptune in Libra)

Hahahahah Opal! I too go away with the fairies. I tell people its what I'm doing too.  I literally say "lalalla I'm off to the wonderful world of make believe! I'll be back when the problems are gone!" and then I skip off. And about ten minutes later I deal with the problems because I do have capricorn and virgo . .

My birthtime is inexact, but close enough that within the time bracket my Ascendant is always cnj neptune. Of the four adults who were around at the time, all four went to the hospital, and while everyone gives approximately the same time none of them are sure the time, and they all have slightly different stories. No one is sure for instance who drove my mom to the hospital, or how my dad got there (actually they're all sure, they just can't agree with each other hahahah) - how very neptune eh?

Elsa said something about not being able to control how people saw her once and it must've been a clear day because it sunk in and the relief was instant. I can put out a very good fake impression (kinda like a jedi mind trick-these are not the droids you are looking for) however I can't sustain it very long (I can't be bothered) and the older I get the less I can be bothered. However if I'm not projecting a specific persona people get wildly different impressions some of which bear no relation to me. Further my ability to parse what people are thinking about me is crippled.  With Saturn square my Capricorn sun when I think about it or try to guess I tend to believe the worst and then freak out, however if I don't think about it/am not at all concious my jupiter square to my sun comes out and people mistake me for an egomaniac. People's impressions of me tend to be strong though, and more than once I've been in a room with people arguing about what I'm like (without asking me of course  'cause I wouldn't know LOL).

There's pluses and minuses, but I don't think I'd trade it. For all I feel confused a lot of the time, I also feel like it lets me be a little bit of everything and it has let me go places . . It lets me go undercover and I've yet  to find an outfit I really couldn't wear (although maybe thats the 12th house venus) I can appear (or disappear) however I want and pretty much wherever I want and thats pretty damn cool. Secret aaaagent man secret aaaaaaaagent man . .

Bwah, I love how this got bumped up just as I was reading the blog of the person who inspired this post. And said person was going on about spacing out and dreams today.

Hi!

I go with fairies too. Sometimes I have to really try to stay in the real world to get things done.

What i would like to know is what kind of person then sees us as we are?

I haven't yet experienced anything positive about this aspect.

When I meet someone and if they don't see me as I'm I usually kick them "out" (sco rising).

Of course it difficult to get a job if people just don't like you or what you say cause of some funny image in their head. (how to beat that, eh?)

What I don't understand what is it like to live without the other world to excape to?? What do you do then ? Maybe if I didn't have this I would have gotten so bored that I would have made something out of myself (maybe?)

Maybe this aspect will keep me company when I'm real old living alone and such!?

What i would like to know is what kind of person then sees us as we are?

*shrug* Someone who generally has pretty good perception as to who/what they are dealing with? Someone who wasn't born with projection issues? 

What I don't understand what is it like to live without the other world to excape to?? What do you do then ? Maybe if I didn't have this I would have gotten so bored that I would have made something out of myself (maybe?)

I read a lot of books...

Of course it difficult to get a job if people just don't like you or what you say cause of some funny image in their head. (how to beat that, eh?)

I'm not sure it can be beaten. I figure there are as many people getting an overly good impression as there are getting an overly bad one, and that most people are somewhere in the middle and will give me time to emerge. If I want to emerge. Otherwise I'm just all wavy on them like an mirage. They're just as confused as I am, and probably more because at least I know that we're both confused.

What I don't understand what is it like to live without the other world to excape to?? What do you do then ?

I don't know. 

Maybe this aspect will keep me company when I'm real old living alone and such!?

It kept me from getting too lonely as a kid :) 

I haven't yet experienced anything positive about this aspect. 

Really? You've never used it to probe someone psychology? Or to dress up in a way that other people can't get away with? I freakin' love my neptune.  It lets me escape, it makes other people think I'm dreamy, I can dress up and steal the show, or sink under the waves and no one can see me (which I think would be pretty attractive to a scorpio :) ) Imagination and faith are easy for me to access, and its pretty easy for me to bring people into my imaginary world.  However, my Neptune is in the 12th, and so is my Venus, and they're both in Sag, so I find my neptune liberating. And it's entertaining - which even you acknowledge because "Maybe if I didn't have this I would have gotten so bored that I would have made something out of myself (maybe?)"

I love this topic and I resonate with it in a different way. I believe that with my Neptune opposed the ascendant and angular(7th)and as my dominant planet and making the only conjunction in my chart(depending on the orb) I have something totally applicable to say here.

Throughout mostly all of my life I have had SO many projections onto me and it was always so weird to see how people reacted to me.
It was almost as if I was sitting in my head in a booth separate from the reality someone ELSE had created for me.

It has never ceased to amuse me how much someone REALLY knew me and "how I was". My dad for instance always saw me as someone who was very "evil" and dark inside but, with an angel exterior. My mother always saw me as someone who very nice and super kind and caring on the inside but, nasty on the outside.

Of course I have about 50 other distinctions people have made about me and I'm not talking simple character traits but, full personality assessments.
I struggled with that Dark angel theme? Or the Light demon theme for years.

I have come to learn that I have Total control over how someone sees me and I am beginning to revel in the fact that I can use this to my advantage especially with the aspect(sex tile) to the Mid Heaven in Pisces(Neptune ruled) so it is something I can activate(a talent).

I don't know if it's a bad thing anymore.
I guess the only tiny set back is when I start to feel that with so many different character projections I feel invisible.

Apparently Marilyn Monroe also had this aspect!

In one of shoes about her I remember vividly her telling how they were in NYC and they were walking and no one paid any attention to them and then she asked her friend if she would like to see how she "switch on" Marilyn and when she did- suddenly everyone noticed them!

I just don't have that kind of ability. Not that I would like to. But I guess that's just an aspect I share with Marilyn Monroe!

Hey Tipi I read that a while ago also in her book I believe.

Yes she stated that she could go out and no one would notice her and then when she was ready to be Marilyn there she was and everyone noticed.

I noticed this affect with me having Neptune opposed the ascendant(Neptune in the 7th house and Dominant Planet).

 Whenever I feel like it I can just blend in and become very unnoticeable.

Being Mixed race made up of Mexican/Irish/Black/Middle Eastern/Virgin Islander I have been able to alter my very essence from moment to moment.

When I am in NY with my father I speak Spanish and  look only Hispanic or puertorican . When I am with my Black mother I am perceived as a handsome boy who may or may not be mixed race but, when we go to hispanic stores they do not believe that I am in the least related to her! They do not believe she is my mother.

It makes her feel weird because she has never saw me as mixed race(Her projection onto me). I then talk Spanish and blend in easily. I remember many times I have been sitting in the store waiting on my mother and the customers would come to me!

 When I am with my Asian friends I am constantly projected as being mixed race Asian/Black and I unknowingly act accordingly! I even understand them when they speak and use their language from time to time feeling Very uncomfortable by how Fluent I sound and the attention attracted. The elder Asian community take a very nice liking to me( I suspect they believe I am related to them:P)

When I am with my like irish or italian friends I become them.

I drink hard and party hard Here's a pic:P Of such a time

A couple of times people thought I was famous and really made a big spectacle out of it. It was fun but, I was highly annoyed and shy so the more suspicious acting and shy I acted the more they thought I was Famous!:P

I can say I'm working on it though:P

Neptune Trine Ascendant. I am very sensitive. Much much more than people will ever Know. My own family doesn't even realize how sensitive I am. Probably because of my strong Mars in Scorpio. I'm so sensitive that it hurts for me to think of human suffering. I have to go off to my happy place from time to time just to excape from the harsh realities. My happy place is all in my head. I do not do drugs or alcohol or even cigarettes. I have 3 planets in my 6th house. I can be fanatical about health and fitness.

This is interesting stuff.

hmm I have a retrograde Neptune rising in my first house. I'm always out of this world and people always noticed how tired and passive I look . I have my own world and it involves lots of music, melody, arts but also esoteric practices and astrology! I also have vivid, sometimes powerful dreams and I always look up for an interpretation. It's easy for me to pick up persona and act it out later on.

My husband has Neptune on the ASC. Some things others have said are resonant- he can hide himself well, or be "on", as he chooses. He is also extremely intuitive (look to other placements for the full picture on that, though).

Just want to say I love this thread - and I am so glad I am not the only one who feel like this.

Neptune in Scorpio conjunct to my Scorpio Rising (within 10 degrees). I also have Moon conjunct to the Neptune (but in Sag) in the 1st.

All I can say is YES - I feel INVISIBILE. GW, i love what you said about how there could be tons of room in place but all the ignorant rude people practically walk right on your feet. WTH??? I have always wondered why - first if it was a dude doing it, I thought they were trying to get my attention but than I thought No it can't be that. I alwasy wonder "Am I not here"?? I often feel like getting a megaphone so I can yell in it and see if people hear me or not - just so I know I am actually there.

And misunderstood - yes! I could write a manual on me, really detailed and all (Virgo Sun) and have someone read it and they would STILL form their own illusions, all wrong, about me.

I kind of agree with Foxxy - we can't really beat this placement/aspect - we have to roll with it. Sometimes is SO nice being invisible. But yeah, I can slip into my fantasy world quite easily and I can get away with dressing in a certain way others can't (I am a dream after all, right?).

With this is Scorpio, yes, I have "kicked" people out of my life who I can't get to understand me. Scorpio figures Why bother? Waste of my time. But it is SOOO hard to function in "reality" with this aspect (how do I get a job??). Fantasy world - I excel!!! I honestly like it because I think it is a most unique and unusual aspect but I just wished it was tolerated better by the other "non-invisibles" I have to deal with. It is still cooler to be "like a dream" than be a boring grey reality. :)

my natal neptune is in the end of my first house, but in my progressed chart it's conjunct my ascendant. i'm guessing it means it is a subtle undercurrent at play. i also have natal neptune tightly trine my venus-midheaven, and neptune transiting right on my IC now.

i've noticed i am better able to be a chameleon and ease into people's expectations of me. i used to be quite the weirdo so this is a relief to me, that i can pass unnoticed if i want to.