This is in continuation to my last forum topic (http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/observations-of-close-friends-charts). You mentioned that certain aspects/planet/sign placements are drawn to you. What are the chart placements of people that get on your nerves or absolutely cannot get along with?

Mine:

1) strongly Capricorn. Just like my father. I also noticed in a Facebook app that I had the least number of Capricorn friends - as opposed to Gemini which I had the most number of. My ex has mercury and mars in Capricorn conjunct.

2)  Virgo moons. I don't know what it is about them. Ex had this placement and so did a friend I just recently "excommunicated." They are good people, but somehow, I can't seem to get along with them. I find that some of them lack action and resort to "playing victim."

3) some (not all) Pisces/Aquarius cusp people. I couldn't quite figure these people out. They come off cold yet they are supposedly intuitive. They look like they are constantly hiding something.

So far, that's it. What's yours? 

i wouldn't go so far as to say "repel."

certain cancers (probably ones with watery moons) make me nervous. i have a lot of libra. it's like i would never feel comfortable with just the two of us trying to have a conversation one on one for any given amount of time. need other people in the mix, to act as a social buffer.

other cancers i seem to have a good vibe with and i figure they must have water/air sun/moon to compliment my air sun/water moon.

lololol... Bananas, do I make you nervous? :D

I understand though. Just how air moons make me nervous. It's like walking on eggshells because they're prone to "topic changes" and we water moons get sensitive. Yikes. 

I have trouble with people who have Venus in Air signs. I like Air in other ways (eg. Sun, ASC, Moon, Mars even)...something about that Venus. I'm too emotional for it.

Also some Sagittarius Suns. I'm beginning to suspect that my 12th House Sag Neptune has to do with it, maybe these people have their Suns at the degree of the Neptune. They think I'm flaky and flighty and too stupid for them. 

kash, I'm a Sag Sun and I think you're very intelligent based on your posts.

repel might be a little harsh, but I am seldom on the same wavelength as sun cancers, sun virgos and  sun capricorns....but well , you never know either , because sometimes when ur firstimpression is that ur not seeing the same world..u rarely ...unless ur facinated ..dig deeper ..so ...:/

I sometimes have problems dealing with the cappy cancer axis

I'm a libra and I do not like to see the dominating dominated attitude they project on you,  it just seems so unequal

and geminy (the ones that talk all the time) give me headache, I get overwhelmed and when the are gone I feel totally empty, as if I was robbed of my own mental speace

thanks Toni. I think it's just a Neptune thing...not all Saggies are confuzzled by me, of course if they are born with Neptune/Sag they might have the same problem that I do, right?

Ram I agree the Capricorn/Cancer axis can be tough. I have Capricorn Moon, and my closest girlfriend is a Cancer Sun, and it just works for us. She mothers me for sure, but it is never annoying/controlling

I HAD a good girlfriend who was a Capricorn Sun/Cancer Moon and she wanted to dominate the hell out of me and tell me exactly who I was and would always be. A couple of years ago I told her I wanted to learn how to drive a car: "Oh you'd probably be really bad at it." That sort of shit, it just never abated. It was awful because we WERE close.

17 years of feeling oppressed, the friendship is over. I wish we'd been able to keep things together but it wasn't meant to be.

Lunalie, aren't you an Aries with a Cancer moon? :)

I'm okay if it's only the moon in water. Mine is water as well. I may have mentioned in other threads I really enjoy my cancer moon friends.

The online/email relationship is different. I have a Cancer friend who I feel a little tense around in person, but we get along smashingly - and I mean really chummy - on email and in other online formats. 

It's hard to explain - just a certain discomfort hanging in the air. Maybe I'm the only one who feels it!

I think heavy water people stress me a bit. Some long-time friends of mine are a watery couple. She's Pisces with a Scorpio moon, he's a Cancer (don't know his moon). They're good people but I start to feel pessimistic when I hang around with them too long. 

I remember once I told them that their double fire daughter sometimes talked "like an adult woman in a little girl's body." She does. She's highly assertive. 

He got sensitive over that and almost-snapped at me. "Uhh, she's not a woman, she's a LITTLE GIRL."

I shut up real quick but I thought "Fuck! Offending the freaking water people again!"

Bananas:

Yup. I'm a Cancer Moon/Aries Sun and Asc. Mueheheh :P

Very watery people - I actually get along with them though sometimes there could be something so intense about them - especially with Scorpio types. I think the problem with a lot of watery moons is that they are sensitive and others who converse with them feel like they're walking on eggshells. Heck, that's been said about me SO MANY times. They don't know that the Aries gives me the ability to handle it (and spew it back at them) and the watery moon is just my sensitivity :)

Sorry repel is a bad word. I guess I'm just an intense person (Mars square Uranus, Pluto square Moon). I tend to use a lot of intense words in my writing. 

 Bananas wrote:

They're good people but I start to feel pessimistic when I hang around with them too long.

I shut up real quick but I thought "Fuck! Offending the freaking water people again!"

My Mom is a Cancer with a Cappy moon. Boy, does that describe the problems of our relationship to a T.

(i've got Sag/Aqua - you can see the problem!)

Oh, yeah, I can, Vajra! In fact after I typed that I was wishing that I hadn't moved so far away from my 2 fire friends from my old job - Sadge and Aries. Those gals dig my vibe, man!

Sometimes Gemini. I have so much Pluto/8th house/Scorpio that I am allergic to (and really really bad at) small talk and am likely to say something really blunt and honest and incisive, which makes them squirm and perceptibly want to flit the hell out of there. 

I think all of the signs can be smug. But, for some reason, smug Taureans rub the wrong way more often than others. I have no planets in Earth, and I do enjoy watching earthy people. I've had some good Sun Capricorn friends. But Taurus is the sign most likely to look at me like I've got three heads. I've got almost all fire and water in my chart. I need meaning in my life. Of all smug people, smug Taureans are the most likely to view me as some kind of loser because I don't have the same values and goals as they do.

I don't want to paint all Taureans with the same brush, I'm sure some are not smug at all. I just haven't met them yet, is all.

And as a Cancer Sun and rising, I do agree with the people who said they feel like they're walking on eggshells and afraid of offending these type of people. I have an Aries moon, so it's not as bad as it could be. But I do avoid social butterfly airy types, not out of dislike but because I'm aware of my sensitivity and that this will not go over well in the long term. But at a cocktail party, it's totally fine!

Sometimes Gemini. I have so much Pluto/8th house/Scorpio that I am allergic to (and really really bad at) small talk and am likely to say something really blunt...

tinaroma, LOL, that is my husband to a T. He hates small talk! (Sun, Venus, Jupiter in Scorpio, plus Mercury in Sag doesn't help with the blunt)

I find Geminis and Libras to be very much into small talk. I'm not often keen on that because as an Aries, you only really talk to me when you have something to say :P My partner is a Scorpio sun and mercury and he HATES smalltalk. He will go as far as snubbing people just to avoid it!

For me, I notice that Cap moons tend to activate something in me after we have known each other for a little while and seemingly have some understanding.So far, it seems to always end abruptly due to them emotionally shutting me off.My cancer moon was hit pretty hard the three times it happened.The thing is,they do it in such a way that infuriates my Libra Sun, since they pretend to be so logical when their actions are clearly emotionally motivated.I mean...they are cold in response to warmth.But that's just because they project emotions in order to not claim them.That shyte pisses me off!

I also find Cap moons to be a hard little kernel on the inside even when they think and feel and act like they care. Not too crazy about Cap suns either.I used to be very close to a Cap Sun w. Leo Moon and it was a very opressive friendship much like Kashmiri's.We were teenage best friends, but now I have put distance between us and now am almost always amused at her pomposity.I'm just sayin.

Also, Aries moons are harder for me to deal with than the Suns because I believe there is all of the selfishness and none of the innocence of the Aries Suns.Except one Virgo with an Aries moon I know who is refreshingly trusting.But I do believe she is capable of making a move on your guy if she feels the notion.

wow...don't mean to sound so judgemental and categorical in my assertions, but that has been my experience.Also, I have Sag rising...mild case of "foot-in-mouth" disease.My Libra Sun hopes no one is SERIOUSLY offended.

[But if you are...you can always let my moon/mars conjunction know...lol]

i either love or hate geminis.  my jupiter's there so... i run into a lot of them.  and they make my head ache.  or they're really fascinating.

i think a lot of it has to do with how comfortable they are with trying out different faces.... and how much depth they actually manage to bring to them...

Oh man, I am glad you brought up (USER) how Scorpios don't do small talk. My VERY Gemini partner always gets on my case because I can't just chit chat with people like him. I tell him I have nothing to say, there is nothing important to converse about. If they wish to talk to me fine, but I can care less about talking about there mundane lives. haha.

Anyhow, I realize Virgos(Rising,Moon or Mercury) rub me wrong too, I mean they are always nice but I just can't stand the weak feeling they exude. I can't explain it, there energy annoys me. My sister in law is a Virgo, I love her but we don't talk much at all, which gets me kinda sad.

It is weird because my 11th house cusp is Virgo, you would think I would have a shit load of Virgo friends. Nope. 

caps really stung me as a kid.  i think it's more caps who blame other people for the (not insignificant) unpleasantness they tend to face.

or, well, caps telling my aries i can't do what i damn well know i can do, because i've done it a thousand times before and poisoning me with their fear.

i don't like those caps.   but others i just love. integrity and a willingness to actually speak their truth (far more than any other sign i know) has always endeared certain capricorns to me.

but, really, my biggest peeve... is people filling my head with inane drivel.  taurus mercury doesn't forget stuff easy, and there's some things i really wish i could erase. it being in aspect o scorpio... i'm happier talking deep, anyway.  and am not known for social grace and tend to upset such people anyway.  so i'd rather not make a scene or make people uncomfortable and i'd rather save my wee introverted little head the trouble weeding  out the mental crabgrass.

Cap moon here and I have had people come up to me and tell me that they don't like me around.  They normally have Sadge suns at late degrees so that conjuncts with my cappy moon.  And it happened in more than one occassion.  

I can never get along with Libras. My Mom is a libra and so is my x-bf haha. I just don't understand them.

It's werid because my sun is in cancer, and I have a very watery pisces moon, and mostly everyone who has ever been extremely important to me has been a gemini or a leo- which im supposedly not supposed to get along with very well. My two best friends are leo and gemini. But it may have something to do with being an aquarius rising? I don't know haha

Lunalie I think you're right about the Virgo Moons, I am one and I do play the victim which I'm semi-aware of and it's pathetic but I always seem to whine, criticize and obsess. That might also be down to the Pisces I.C. but I do think I'm a good person at the core. People with Virgo rising can also be highly provocative and perverted.

One sign I HATE, detest and abhor is Pisces. There's a good reason why these spineless degenerates are thrust to the back of the zodiac. I've known Pisceans who are rapists, drug addicts (and dealers), liars, racist and emotional blackmailers. The most vital point to learn about Pisces is that, at heart, they are insipid cowards because they don't destroy for any reason, the 'power' they destroy with is never their own, it's stolen from naive people and used against them. If Pisces doesn't destroy others they can happily destroy themselves from their own weakness.

Even the 'higher type' of Pisces who is charitable, glamorous and unfailingly kind seem to wear these good traits like a mask and others are deceived by their murky selfish depths.

The most dangerous sign is Sag because they are armed, Gemini also has double the capacity & can 'switch off' their better conscience. Taureans build but destroy like no other. Aquarians being ruled by Uranus can explode in anger (like Christian Bail-although he is unexcusably abusive to family & colleagues alike).

Aries at are 'young offenders', vulgar, narcisstic and hedonistic. They are impulsive, so will do violent acts for the sake of it. I also know them to be jealous and insecure.

Cancer may seem sweet but this is also a sign of war, armour and defence, paranoia and bare-knuckle fights.

The ways signs go bad are ruled by their house so Leo's downfalls are in the areas of fame-seeking, children, affairs etc.

"The thing is,they do it in such a way that infuriates my Libra Sun, since they pretend to be so logical when their actions are clearly emotionally motivated.I mean...they are cold in response to warmth.But that's just because they project emotions in order to not claim them."

Oh Cap moons.. this hit home with my ex who was pisces sun opposite saturn in virgo with a cap moon. When he was upset he'd go super practical. Had to do his routine and get to bed to sleep so he could work in the morning.. never mind that he wouldn't be able to sleep well because he was upset. :P  I learned to not engage or i'd get burned but rather to ride it out or offer a practical solution. At least he had his pisces sun that could get him out of too much coldness and give a hug. 

I knew an aries that thought virgos were fake. Always playing the martyr and only appearing to do the work. 

I like most people - jupiter in pisces, sag in neptune, but have no use for people who see the world as negative. Probably since i am so not that way.. except on a bad day.  I like practical signs when they help (virgo, cap, taurus) but not when they oppress.. since i'm air, water and fire. Tend to prefer water and air signs but just love being close to fire signs.  

Bretagne & StarGirl: 

I think with Virgo rising/sun people, the ones I know never exude weakness. Instead, they tend to be very self-righteous and think they're always right. I love my Virgo friends to death - in fact some of my very very best friends are Virgos, but it is one of those relationships where we have yelling matches. Again too, I have Mars in Leo ruling my chart so I'm very quick to jump in a "fight" when someone starts one (And funny enough I don't... But I never back down... Aries, I guess?).

With Virgo moons, I just don't understand why some of them criticize, complain and become self-righteous when they don't even ACT. One former friend complained once about his lack of a lovelife. He has an unrequited love - or at least he has not shared his feelings for her yet for over 15 years. I told him he has to take the chance and he doesn't. Meanwhile, he whined and complained about the guys she sees. He would whine and complain about not earning a lot of money when he, as an engineer could really push forward in his career and go for something better. And the part I hate most? They project their issues on ME and tell me how flawed I am and that I should do things as they say. WHAT??? You SERIOUS??? I clawed my way to where I am - with a lot of action and when I do whine - it's because I am ACTING on it! And they tell ME how to live MY life when they can't even take care of theirs?

I am sure there are some wonderful Virgo moons out here, but the ones I've encountered are just ridiculous and critical. Oh well.  

My dad's a Virgo moon and he's just fine.

I find some Geminis too fake for me to care much for them. The key word is SOME.

what with pluto sextile neptune for most of the past century, it's been really good at drawing out the shadow side of pisces into awareness.

but pisces energy can be powerfully transformative for the exact same reason.  if they can manage to figure out the discretion to keep from buying their own delusions and feeding them to others.  this is where i see being able to access virgo and pisces at the same time to be incredibly valuable

my grandpa was a virgo, and one of the strongest wisest people i have known.  also very quiet and tended to keep his own counsel.  until he decided it was necessary to speak.  at home, he told us great stories.  something to do with his jupiter mercury conjunction, i imagine ;)

I prefer not to overgeneralize because of one or two peoples bad behavior.  It gives them more significance then they deserve.

Interesting what's being said about virgo moons. Instantly made me think of 2 people I know who majorly play VICTIM. One is virgo moon, but also saturn con sun. Other is virgo sun with saturn opp (aries) moon.  Whereas I have been friends for years with a piscese sun, virgo moon who is totally down to earth and never makes a big deal when difficult things happen.  So maybe it is the saturn connection???

Also interested in the cap moon digs. I'm cancer sun with cap moon, and people think I'm kind and warm and a good shoulder to lean on and sometimes I enjoy that. But, yes I can be a bit of a harsh calculating bitch on the inside. I have a conscious awareness of what I stand to gain from my friendships/contact with others. Whereas I think many people keep those kind of motivations subconscious - but it's quite normal to invest in friendships and relationships because you have something to gain from it. An old friend put it nicely: "I'm using you. Your company makes me feel good."

I see that on one level this means i 'use' people. But i feel like it's better to do so consciously and fairly (I treat people well and I'm confident they benefit from my friendship too) - although it's not  something I'd admit to many people, because it makes me sound like a cold two-faced bitch, and I don't think I really come across that way to many people! There's a great gap between the cold dispassionate voice in my head and the way I feel and act towards people.

Liori, I really like your comment:)

I have a cap moon friend, and I have scrached my head over and over because I find her a little calculating in regards to people. I have though what does she get out of me?? I am not good at networking, no "social" status and I am very broke at this moment....

I think you discribe it perfectly..you use someone by making  them make u feel good ect..

I dont think thats cold at all, and I think we do it with friends all the time, we call people after what kind of response we expect from that and that person ect....

I think it is better too feel used sometimes, than not needed at all:) , however if a friend stops being ur friend in a time where u are unable to give...that I think is a sign of a calculating cold "friend"

people who kick people when they are down

I agree, Virgo Moons critisize others but don't do much about their own situation especially as you say in the areas of love. Maybe it's because deep down they don't think they're good enough, I don't like couples but it's only because I honestly don't think my future will include love but I do draw strength from seeing couples who have overcome personal problems because I begin to realise that love does conquer all.

The only thing I don't like about couples is if they act sexually smug, if they're open about it then fine, this is probably down to my Aries moon sister who was a TOTAL nightmare slut growing up with, it sometimes felt as if she used sex as a form of power.

Also I don't really get on with Librans although I've recently made a Libra friend who is remarkably intelligent and insightful, the kind of Libra the books tell you exist. My friends are usually Aqua's, Leo's and Gems. Also Capricorns.

Sun Virgos can be so unlike their bookish image, many of the greatest superstars are Virgo and even the 'average' ones are fascinating.

Cancer Moons.  Sorry, Lunalie!  I'm referring to the people in my life who have it, with one big exception.

The ones I know are territorial, clingy, neurotic, nasty, money-grubbing creatures.  It's really exhausting being around, so...I stay away and have for years.

One embezzles money from hubs' dad's business to pay her bills, or she used to.  One is so neurotic that I'm surprised she comes out of her house.  Scared to death of friggin' everything.  She's made her two children into whiny, clingy, nervous wrecks as well (one has a Cancer Moon, the other one Cancer Venus/Jupiter, conjunct HER Cancer Moon/Venus!).

One kid was riding a bike with training wheels at age NINE.  One was still sucking on a pacifier at age SEVEN.  This is some crazy stuff, folks.

Their Moons are all square my Libra Moon.  I think they overreact; they think I underreact.  And the misunderstanding goes on and on and on...

The one big exception to my generalizing observations is my youngest daughter.  I have a special bond with her that's like nothing else I ever felt.  Her Cancer Moon is right on my IC.

She has Saturn conjunct her Moon, but I found that it's tempered the overly histrionic reactions I've seen in other Cancer Moons.  This conjunction is also part of a Grand Trine involving her Scorpio Sun and Pisces Mars.

A lot of people she's met said she's "special".  She has a big heart (she has Leo rising), has lots of friends, and you feel better being around her.  I call her my "ray of sunshine".  She's the one exception to the neurotic Cancer Moons I usually meet.  At her young age, she seems to have put it to good use! 

LisLioness:

We Cancer Moons are neurotic folk :) No, seriously. What you have described (particularly territorial and clingy) is something I totally relate to. I am not sure about money-grubbing, but I can see this be a not-so-great quality among cancer moons because we do care about our security. We can have tendencies to wimpiness so THANK GOD for all the fire (Aries) in my chart!

So no worries, I don't take this the wrong way :) I think with Cancer moons, we need to learn to develop our own sense of security. We need to retreat when we need to retreat - as opposed to controlling or manipulating others (Yes, we are capable of this as I've been burned before - I have Pluto squaring this moon) to fulfill our inner needs. I've met a few cancers that had so much issues with manipulation and insecurity that it turns UGLY. 

I guess you can say with every sign out there, there's always the pretty and ugly side. 

 Cancer moons 'clingy'?...ummm, that would be a great big YES.The territorial thing is true to the extent that the sun sign does not modify that quality.Money-grubbing, I'm not so sure about, but maybe that's because I'm no spendthrift and could care less about the material(but that's me). All in all, I would say we are capable of being some pretty needy people.Depending on your perspective, there can defintely be some 'touchiness' about the Cancer Moon.

My Libra Sun is always demanding a reasonable explanation for things, and most of all perspective, so it may reign in some of those cloying tendencies.At least I think so...lol...wheew!

This Cancer moon is in the least bit clingy. I break the mold.