Are we the lucky ones? We are the ones whose lives will most radically change with the Uranus Pluto squares. What will happen to us? Just how radically will we transform? What role will we play for the collective?

are we lucky?  perhaps..  i do think things will change the most because we are more open to those changes (when i get my virgo moon to shut up and just deal)

Lol :)

Do we have what it takes to lead? I think I do. That's what we're supposed to do, right, lol?

Yeah..lucky..that's what I call it.

I have no problem leading. Everyone follows the first lemming off a cliff right?

LOL Josi.

I was thinking exactly that - that not only will you transform, but you might also transform the world.

I'm all mid (Aries)and late degrees Cardinal. I'm thinking I can support such as you as we move forward...

I CAN LEAD..  through the ears of the one speaking to the masses.....

i've always been good at the "right hand man" roll..  that guy who is ACTUALLY calling the shots, but takes no recognition for it....... 

FOLLOW ME..  THE CLIFF IS THATAWAY!!!!

LOL, rant. That's what my 12th house sun is becoming VERY good at. My jupiter/leo always wanted the recognition. Now I am discovering just how much you can get accomplished from behind the scenes. I still want attention... But attention is cheap. Excellent results seem to satisfy me more now. And other people succeeding. I LOVE that. (I still want attention, did I mention that?)

Lol. Mr. Virgo :)

How early? What degress would you say...?

Well I guess I should say early to mid. All the squares take place between 8-15.

Hits my Card Sun n Moon (7 - 8). How...? Not sure

I think it depends on how well you can assimilate and roll with the punches ( which will be to the gut).

Yes, I'm sure you're right, Elsa.

SO, then. Saturn/Eris in Aries. 

I am still learning to enjoy this reprieve I seem to be living - outside world-wise. (Though I am getting hit with shit I would have lost it over a couple of years ago.) But I feel prepared. I'm still here. I WILL deal. But I don't want to live expecting the worst. SO. I know the potential either way. I'm know I am not in control of the universe or of society or of other people...

Ah the gut... The other thread makes sense, now. Yeah. I can take a punch to the gut. That's speaking from experience.

As the square goes through the cardinal signs, I think others will come in too. But for now it's the same batch that was under cardinal cross stress, right?

"Are we the lucky ones? We are the ones whose lives will most radically change with the Uranus Pluto squares"

Yes to the radical changes, but it sure doesn't feel lucky from where I'm sitting.

Basically, starkttn. A little bit later in the degrees though.

8-15 degrees has this falling just off my personal planets, but aspecting ur & chiron.  We'll see, I've really been working hard to just 'roll with the punches', which is not easy when I have so much cardinal.  So, we'll see ;)
Angie

Thanks, Caroline. That cross was so tumultuous, not sure if it was amped up with uranus-pluto.

What will happen to us? Well I've got Venus closest so yes, a rollercoaster ride, but it's all right, have venus-pluto, so maybe it's helping me stay rooted. I may be transforming rapidly, but I can't tell, others would be the judge. I don't know what to feel and don't have a good grasp on it. I have been up and down though; hope I get a better grasp on this.

What role will we play? I do have both planets aspecting personal ones, so it's the usual for me, but amped up. However, Venus rather than my usual mars-uranus is so refreshing - I can actually get a bit of a respite and look good for a while rather than just shock folks unused to a mars-uranus chick. That part feels really good.

I'm not leading, just zapping left and right.

I have my Mercury at 0 Libra and I don't know if *luck* is the right word for having one's brain explode :)

I try not to dwell on it. Onward and upward!

I have my Merc @ 8Aries and Jupiter @ 8Cap. I hope because I do have a lot of mutable in my chart that I will roll with it as it comes. I think it's gonna be another long strange ride.

Help me understand this: My sun is at 0 degrees Aries. Jupiter at 2 degrees Virgo. Uranus is already shaking me up, sitting on my sun. What would a square with Pluto DO?

I have Mars at 1 deg of Libra, but I'm not sure I'm lucky, or that the cardinal planets will affect me. But that's my only early degree cardinal planet--I think. My Nodes are also at 14 degrees of Cancer/Capricorn.

My joking aside, I see what you are saying and agree with the fact that early cardinals will be called to lead in some way with Pluto/Uranus. But, here's the thing. It isn't just early cardinals. We have our mutables who are experiencing Neptune squares from the early degree of Pisces. They have a role in this dynamic too. Cardinals have trines from Neptune. Can mutables learn from us? While early fixed will have easy aspects from uranus/pluto. Can cardinals learn from how the easy aspects affect early fixed people? Are we going to be dependent to learn from eachother (not just Cardinal) during these shockingly destructive and confusing times? yes..I think so. But, I don't think it's just Cardinals who are going to be leading the way.

Angles at the early degree? I don't know what that means? Could someone quickly explain?

I have Uranus and Neptune there. They'll be conjunct tPluto and square tUranus.Hoo-freaking-ray! Hahahahah

ama, the angles are ascendant/descendant, IC/MC. If they are at an early degree of a cardinal sign then they will get hit by the Uranus-Pluto square that's coming up.

@rantares, how does your Virgo moon work? Are you hyper-critical of every feeling? I have Merc./Venus in Virgo and over-analyze relationships to death!

Letting go is such a simple concept...allowing things to happen, another story.

ama, angles=AC, DC, IC, MC.

Just saw that the peak looks to be around end of June at 8 degrees. My Cardinal Sun is at 8 degrees and my cardinal Cap Moon is at 7. Don't know what to think.

Well, there is no predicting what will happen, that seems certain.

Gotta be proactive. I'm not sitting around waiting for something to happen. It will be in my solar return too since my birthday is July 1.

In some ways, yes I suppose. That's kind of a confusing point for me because isn't it best to be passive to some degree when Pluto is involved? On the other hand, these planets are in cardinal signs and Aries is the leader of them all.

@ Joie - I have a Virgo Moon like Rantares. Mine is also conj Pluto and in my H10. I am very critical. I've had to work very hard to not be so tough on myself (and others), and I think it might be a lifetime lesson. I'm highly sensitive and do tend to over analyze how I feel.

I agree with both astroboy and Caroline on Pluto. I think "going with the flow" kinda describes it best. Sometimes its better to be passive a bit and let Pluto have it's way with you, and other times you have to go out there and kick some butt. In my case, this years solar return for me has a grand trine with Pluto-Mars-Sun. In this case I can definitely see that action will be required (Sun conj MC in H10), it's going to be squared SR Uranus-Merc conjunction. I will have to see how this years SR plays out. I doubt it will be boring though!

Cool, lucky :)