Pluto In Capricorn (Square Uranus) - We Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet
posted 3 months ago in News and Current Events
... like no one likes hearing negative things from astrologers but eventually the knowledge came in handy ...
Yes!
It's only the fools that shoot the messenger.
"I don't need some pretty face to tell me pretty lies, all I want is someone to believe."
- Billy Joel, Honesty
Well I definitely see it around me, and what's disgusting is that people's behavior actually causes and feeds on this - it's easy to say the decay is all around us, but people around us are living and doing this everyday.
Some are thriving and succeeding, but it's those who will stop at nothing to get what they want. It's somehow mixed in with Neptune Pisces blurred boundaries too - what was once private and scared no longer is.
I'm not handling Cappy energy well at all, I have to keep deferring to my friends who are more sensible. It's like I've completely been assimilated with no choice these days.
Oh goody. I look forward to being homeless and jobless for the rest of my life if that's everyone's future. Not.
Pluto spent the last 2 years conjunct my jupiter in my 5th house, simultaneoulsy trining my venus/MC conjunction. I'm basically an astrology newb but I'm glad I have some idea what has been going on because of it. Pluto in the 5th brought death to my door and I won't underestimate it's lessons again. I have such foreboding about these times and I'm grateful for every bit of information that keeps me awake to the transits.
How neptune in pisces and saturn in scorpio play out w/Uranus and pluto is very much on my mind.
I'm grateful to anyone that can add perspective, so thank you, Elsa.
My father likes to quote Confucius, "may you live in interesting times". Lately, that's been feeling like a curse.
I hope for the best for everyone. Bracing my own self for a future conjunction with t. pluto on my moon. Eeep...
In 2023 when Pluto leaves Cap I shall be 77. By that time he will have transited my Venus/Vesta [exact conj] at 17Ëš and then my Sun at 22Ëš, in doing which he will be setting off all of my T-squares (Mars/Saturn oppposing and Chiron/ Juno/Jupiter squaring).
So I'd better enjoy the next few years... ![]()
In truth I'm not so worried as I possibly should be, as I've survived everything the universe has flung at me so far, inc my chart, and it ain't been easy!
I've braved what I could the past few years as it has transited my Sun.
What scares me is when it hits 19 Capricorn. Me, my husband and my daughter all have personal planets at 19 Capricorn.
I can't help but think my son will be the catalyst for whatever is going to happen. He has a Neptune-Uranus conjunction at 21 Capricorn - those 2 planets are the kite in his Grand Water Trine. Almost all points in his chart will be affected. He doesn't handle anything well - and he's a Plutonian.
OK right, yes, sure, it's good to know that this is coming, thank you for that.
So how do you deal with this? What do you do?
My thoughts are LIVE, Do the best you can, be kind and helpful and supportive to others, take care of yourself, excercise caution. (insert desiderata) I would love to hear what other people think about how they are preparing for this, what actions they envision themselves taking, suggestions for making it through this. Anyone?
I'm going to get hit with the backend of this as both Pluto and Saturn will hit my Sun/Mars in about 10 years. I feel like I'm already preparing for it, like training for a marathon. I know I may have to nuke my life as I know it, so I'm trying to pare down on my attachments to everything but important people. I know I may lose them as well, but I've had my training on that, too. : /
Great. My husband's moon is at 16 degrees Cap in his 3H. His sun is conjunct his Saturn, and Saturn squares a whole bunch of points in his chart. His sun and Saturn are in the 10H. His rising is Scorpio, where his Uranus and NN are conjunct.
So he's either going to become the president of the United States lol, or he'll meet some sort of horrid demise?
Geesh. Him being so Saturnine, the idea of that much upheaval scares me a lot...he is SO resistant to change :/
He did just tell me today he's about ready to start preparing to be a math teacher, which makes me very very happy. His true calling is teaching, and he's attempted to suppress it in the interest of providing stable income for the family at a state job -- which I deeply respect and appreciate. But I always hoped he'd be able to teach before he's 100 years old :) It's really who he is.
Hm. I will not consult all my books...
I'm oddly OK with this. Can't change it, right? Might as well roll with the punches.
Our society is so rotten, so dysfunctional, sweeping change is clearly necessary. If it has to burn down first, so be it.
I am sad I don't think I'll live to see the rebuilding, but I'm happy to see CHANGE. The status quo is clearly not working.
I dont know. I saw the horror of pluto through the late 90's and through the 00's as pluto went through sagg. Think of marlon brando in Apocalypse now "the horror, the horror". Pluto tsqured everything it could and was the focus. I will never be the same.
But now pluto is sextilling and trining the same planets helped at the moment by jupiter. I get this feeling that nothing could be as bad and now it could all get better.
@rachael- Ooh, how could I forget them? That really speaks to the calls for change that we have errupting at the moment, accountability. Gen X (which I am of) emphatically blames that generation for the state of the union. I am not throwing my hat into that ring necessarily but my parents are from the "silent" generation and I have always been aware of differences in attitude. Definitely not trying to play politics or blame as I personally do not think it is that simple.
I don't think any of this would bother me much if I did not have a young son. I worry for him and all of my chutzpah goes right out the window. For myself, I like challenges but as his mother, I pay attention and often become anxious because of it.
@Josephine- well, at least we're all in it together! ![]()
Well said, Elsa. As someone who has survived some rough Pluto transits, you are spot on.
I appreciate truth and honesty. No sugar coating for me.
I think you're right Elsa! For me there are 3 ways to feel about this:
1) Have no idea what to expect but be the excited yet naive little Aries up for challenges!
2) Realise some of what's to come and be scared out of my wits!
3) Take a good look at the world, then give Pluto a silent nod of approval to destroy and run in the other direction.
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I'm still not sure which number I feel, but I've felt all 3.
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Many are disturbed by Google's new policies as discussed here. Solaire asked if this was an indication of the fast (Uranus) degrading (Pluto) I've mentioned on the blog. I said, we ain't seen nothing yet.
Just consider that Pluto will be in Capricorn until 2023 and let me tell you about Pluto transits. You encounter horror of whatever kind and you really don't think it can get any worse, or any deeper, only to wake up 20 feet lower then you were the day before. This is truly the tip of the iceberg.
On the Uranus component, these are dates the planets will aspect each other. You can see the planets square off into 2015, which will accelerate the descent or the decay, or in some cases, the rise to power.
Anyway you turn this or try to look at it, it's clear that we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg at this point.
This reminds me of Rick Rescorla's story. He was the security man (and ex-soldier) for Morgan Stanley who got all but 6 of the 2900 employees in the World Trade Center out safely on 9-11. He knew there would be another attack and forced them to have drills etc. He had a PLAN and if not for him, the death toll that day would have skyrocketed. No one liked doing his drills, like no one likes hearing negative things from astrologers but eventually the knowledge came in handy, to say the least.
If you think that Pluto is going to transit Capricorn and the structure of your life is going to be left unchanged, you're deluding yourself and the signs of this are everywhere.