Pluto transits and death? What are your experiences (if you feel you can share)

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    treehugginmama (wall)       Aries sun. Gem moon. Scorpio ASC. Leo Mars/MC. Taurus Venus

    I don't mean to be crass, I am just thinking now this may be sensitive for some -- I haven't experienced a lot of death, so for now it's still largely theoretical to me. So any insensitivity is meant will full, sincere innocence of motive. 

    But I am curious if Pluto transits have a tendency to bode for death. Do you know of anyone who themselves may have passed on during a particular Pluto transit? Or does a Pluto-moon transit bode for a death of a mother figure? 

    Just curious if this ever plays out in reality...

     
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    Korellyn (wall)    Yukon, Canada   gemini sun, cancer moon & rising

    I'll let you know in a few years after Pluto finishes its opposition to my moon/merc conjunction.

    I'd be scared if I thought it would do any good.

    ETA: just looked at the chart for when my dad died last spring.  Transiting Pluto at 7 Cap, natal Merc at 7 Cancer, natal Moon at 10 Cancer.

    I just hope I make it through the rest of this without losing my mom.

     
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    Josephine (wall)    Florida   Virgo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Cap ASC

    "does a Pluto-moon transit bode for a death of a mother figure?" This is what I have heard/been taught, but like all transits, free will and other circumstances are also in play.

     
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    ruth (wall)    SF bay area   leo sun

    Pluto was inconjunct my moon when my mother died, Saturn was opposed my moon.

    Pluto was 3 degrees past my Saturn, squaring my sun when my father died.

     
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    Mina (wall)    Portlandia, OR   Taurus/Gemini/Gemini

    Pluto was transiting my 8th house (intimate others), conjunct my Neptune, and trine my 12th house Venus when TDO, my partner died.

    Pluto is now transiting my Mother's 4th house (family), and conjunct her Mars, and she/we have lost two relatives this month; one of my aunt's, and a young cousin.

     
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    blue (wall)    no longer here.  

    Sag stellium - Pluto transit = 6 deaths in about 6 months...a trip to India and a death of the old self, as it were. Pluto never leaves you the same. It doesn't always point to physical death though.

     
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    debdeb (wall)       Leo & some other Stuff.

    @blue, wow!

    @treehugginmama, oh wow, I do not know/I am scared. Pluto is on my DSC now. :S

     
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    josefina (wall)      

    Pluto transit through my MC my grandmother died, a HUGE loss in my life and the end of my childhood certanly.

     
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    kr (wall)       Cancer Sun, Virgo Asc, Aquarius Moon

    Pluto was conjunct my husband's moon when his father died. He was 14.

     
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    treehugginmama (wall)       Aries sun. Gem moon. Scorpio ASC. Leo Mars/MC. Taurus Venus

    If no one dies (his mother is approaching 60, so she's not really OLD or decrepid by any means), I hope that this transit will bode for the destruction of a lot of the bad habits he has that bother him. He's a really good guy. But he suppresses emotions and past traumas like only a Cap moon can do :P His 8H Cancer moon brother fills me in on the details of their childhood. It just shocks me -- my husband told me NONE of it. "Nothing happened" is his mantra. Maybe this will blow open that emotional coffin and finally set him free a little. He keeps getting stuck in a pattern of emotional eating that plays out in obvious ways, and it's bugging both of us. Hopefully that's all it'll do...if his mother passed away, I fear it would be the end of his hope or something. He is really attached to her. And she is a huge help to our family. She lives next door. It would be really odd...

    Pluto in Capricorn is in my 4H, which is totally empty. It does trine my natal Venus and sextile my natal Pluto...no conjuncts though :/ 

     
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    jana (wall)       Cap/Sag/Sag

    Pluto was conjunct Moon when my favorite aunt and17year old female dog died, and when my Mom became very ill...but mostly recovered.

    Pluto was conjunct Mars when my Dad died. Transiting Neptune/Chiron was conjunct the 4th house cusp conjunct natal Chiron as well.

     
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    blue (wall)    no longer here.  

    @ debdeb - Pluto on your Desc - are you in a relationship?

     
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    jocelyn (wall)       Cap Sun, Cap Asc, Pis Moon, Sag Stellium

    I think this is such an interesting topic, but I'm a little odd. In December my husband's father passed away on his (my husband's) birthday, which was also two days after his dad's birthday (Chance is December 21, his dad December 19).  I posted a little about some of the transits I observed here: http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/last-week

    We got a hold of his dad's birth certificate and it didn't list time, so I can't speak directly to his dad's chart. But I can speak to the transits my husband experienced when he lost his father:

     

    Transiting Pluto was in his first house, conj his and his father's natal Sun, conj natal Mercury & Venus, sextile natal Saturn. Opposite natal North Node (still trying to understand this one, but it seems significant to me).

    Transiting Saturn formed a conjunction with his natal Pluto in the 10th house, Libra.

    Transiting Mercury was only about .5 degrees off of an exact conjunction (I'm calling it exact!) with his natal Uranus (12H Sadge) at the time of death. The news of his death was abrupt, shocking.

    Transiting Uranus was at 0.41" Aries, which falls in husband's third house (again, shocking news)

    Transiting Moon was conjunct natal Saturn in the 10th. Husband sought support from his mother and stepmother (moon).

    Transiting Chiron was conjunct natal Moon in the 2nd house

     

    Nothing was shown in the 8th house during the transit. I really expected something to pop up there. But duh, Jocelyn, his 8th house is ruled by Leo. Leo is ruled by the Sun. His Sun is in the first house and is joined natally by Mercury, Venus, and Neptune. Oh yeah, and big DUH Jocelyn, his father died on his solar return and Pluto was conjunct his natal Sun.

     

     
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    Joie de Vivre (wall)       Leo Sun, Libra Asc., Scorp. Moon

    treehuggin', just transformed through Pluto sq. Asc, conj. IC and of course opp. MC. I am here, standing taller, leaner, stripped down(deservedly so), moved 2x's, lost my job...can't think of much else I have...except a new appreciation on life and how to make do with what I have left.

    Actually, glad it happened. I was carrying baggage and spewing content that wasn't the real ME.

    Now I'm more the way I was meant to be!

     

     

     
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    Michele (wall)    Sub-arctic   Cancer Sun / Leo AC / Cap Moon

    When Pluto was in my 4th/Scorpio, my daughter was diagnosed with leukemia and was on chemo for 2.5 years. My grand-mothers both died -- within a six month period. And I attended the funeral of six children who were part of the same period my daughter was diagnosed. When Pluto was dancing on the cusp of Capricorn in 2008 my life was shredded. In 2010, my best friend died.

    Not sure what Pluto on my moon will be like, but it's a while away. 26 Cap moon... I suspect that I'll deal with whatever may come... But my "calamity complex" is almost completely dissipated and I'm thinking differently about transformation these days. So I have no intention of living my life now with dread about THAT... Though my mother has a slow-growth cancer... SO, you know... Anything is possible. But it always is - generally.

     

     
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    Elkah (wall)      

    I started paying earnest attention to astrology in 2006. I've always been interested in it and I call it my rebellion against my background (science).

    So, just to briefly and without detail, answer your question (I too, find it fascinating):

    Pluto transit through my 5th has had the most scrutiny and that is ongoing. It will approach my moon in the next 10 years or so and it does worry me when i feel like being worried about something.

    As pluto passes through my 5th; I lost twins, a dear friend - a cap- committed suicide, a bonehead of a bf vanished(good riddance), my grandmother, my dog, another beloved pet, and I developed an addiction. Jupiter rules and resides in my 5th and pluto was conjunct Jupiter for the last couple of years. My grandmother died as that began and my friend died during. The babies died before and I will not go into detail on that, obviously. I have undergone more devastation than I have known how to handle and I sometimes can't believe I am still here but, here I am.

    I like what pluto brings to me as I shed my vanity and self importance. I am still recovering and I'm very slow (taurus mars- i wish you were in cap) but I am discovering more than I ever dreamed of and often the world is magnitudes more beautiful than it could have been to me before. At the end of all of this, I may even like myself and undersand finally, that I DO possess great talents.

    Where death is concerned I've seen Jupiter hanging around, often. Jupiter and Pluto together would have me worry more than Pluto by itself. The nodes too. My friend died the night that retro venus in scorpio hit his north node. Miss him every day.

     
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    Elkah (wall)      

    Michelle- I somehow skimmed passed your post. I want to say something to you but can't find it. Grandmothers, friends and children, too. It looks like we have the same houses, my moon is at 21.

     
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    debdeb (wall)       Leo & some other Stuff.

    @blue, not at all. (NOT AT ALL!!!!!!).

    But I've begun cutting a lot of people out - not from bitterness or a sense of vengeance, but rather because I have this intense need to be 'left alone.'

    That need to be left alone has traditionally been a uranus-type pattern of mine (as I have a lot of natal uranus aspects, and in my teens t. uranus opposed and squared a whole bunch of my planets), but this time around the need to be by myself feels different.

    I feel like I am in hiding. I feel that being too 'open' to scrutiny, I've taken off facebook and hardly appear online in other forms (gmail, etc.) now too.

    I don't know what I'm hiding from. Just months ago I was the life of the party.

     
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    treehugginmama (wall)       Aries sun. Gem moon. Scorpio ASC. Leo Mars/MC. Taurus Venus

    Elkah ((((hugs)))) I am so sorry. If you haven't seen "Tree of Life" yet, I think you would be blown away by the artistic approach to some of the things you mentioned learning from Pluto. It was stunning and beautiful and intense, for those of us who love people deeply. 

    To all of you who have suffered losses, many (((hugs))) to all of you! 

    My grandmother died about 2 years ago. She was very old and wanted to go. She was suffering and just wanted to rest. So I was a sad, becuase I love her and we wrote to each other a lot with real paper and pen letters :) She was a big part of my childhood -- the happiest parts, really. So that was sad. But overall I felt very happy for her. I know she is with God now and she loved Jesus. I think she's so happy now, and I appreciate that part of her passing, at least. 

    My uncle, who I barely knew, passed away of an untimely death over a decade ago. So I haven't had to deal with a lot of loss yet. To even fathom the death of someone I was very very close to shorts out my circuits. I hope to be somehow equal to the challenge when it does come...

     
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    venusflytrp (wall)       virg-ittarius rex

    When I had Pluto on my moon in sag no one died! I did however quit my job, move cities, find my calling, meet a whole bunch of new friends, and become exposed to different viewpoints that changed me at many levels. My moon is in the 11th.

    People say moon -pluto is hell. I think some of the challenges have faded in my mind over time but it wasn't *that* bad for me. Now Pluto approaching my AC scares me.

     
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    luckyduck (wall)    Traveling through a foggy sea that appears surprisingly solid at times.   Taurus/Virgo/Sagittarius

    Pluto dancing through my first house and squaring my N.Moon-Pluto conjunction.... I lost a beloved pet and an unborn child within a few weeks of each other in '08. Lots of other "deaths", ending a toxic relationship, moving out of the area. Then in '10, my soulmate, best friend, baby brother committed suicide. Pluto still in my H1. During that, the Sun was transiting over my natal Moon-Pluto, and Moon-Pluto-Chiron were transiting through my H3.

    These deaths have been very transformational in my life, and it does make sense in that way, Pluto in the First, but it's not a typical placement for such events from what I can tell.

     
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    Elkah (wall)      

    Thank you, treehugginmama. I haven't heard of- I assume it's a film?- that you mention. Oh I see, Terrence Malick? I've loved his other films, that will definitely be sought out.

     

     

     

     
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    mahchi (wall)       Sag Sun, Gemini Moon, Leo Rising

    Pluto was conj my Sun when my mother and a beloved grandfather died in 2006. I hadn't experienced alot of death either to that point.

    I know we have the assumption that Pluto somehow indicates death but I don't know, death happens all the time. I think it is as said above, Pluto doesn't have to signify physical death but generally a sense of loss.

     
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    LisLioness (wall)    New Jersey   Shining Star/Miss Manners/Conquistador

    I've had major Pluto transits, mostly squares and one conjunction (to the MOON) to my Sun and personal planets from around 1977 on.  I didn't lose anyone in my immediate family, but I did have a lot of personal crises that rocked my foundation.

    I came out of them stronger, sadder, and wiser.

    Now I'm preparing for another one - Pluto conjunct MC (15 Cap) and square Moon (19 Libra).  What will happen is anyone's guess, but it's going to be a major life alignment.

     
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    LisLioness (wall)    New Jersey   Shining Star/Miss Manners/Conquistador

    Debdeb, when Pluto hit my DSC and passed into my 7th, I started a new school (high school) and completely cut off everyone from my past.

    I'd been open to too much scrutiny since I was a kid.  I was hounded by a few kids because of past behavior.  They just wouldn't let it go, and I was sick of it and them by that point.

    I wanted to be left alone.

    I went into near seclusion - amplified since Pluto was in Scorpio - and didn't reemerge until Pluto went into Sag.

     
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    Caroline (wall)       Gemini Sun Gemini Moon Libra Rising

    Pluto in Cap on my IC has my father slowly dying. Pretty shitty.

     
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    Isernia (wall)    Ohio   Aquarius Rising, Aries Sun, Pisces Moon, Water Rabbit

    I had Trans Pluto Chiron Sagittarius in a waning conjunction to my MC in the 10th when my Grandmother (my real mother figure) died. 

    I have always blamed Saturn Moon Taurus conj my IC.  My foundation was completely obliterated when my Gram died.  I used to talk to her every day, and visited her at least once per week.  It's going on 12 years, and I still miss her every day and I don't feel like I've actually recovered from her loss.  I don't think I ever will. 

     
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    Solaire (wall)    Rijeka,Croatia   I balance, I will, I think

    I thought I had nothing to write about here, but then I realised I do. My grandfather, to whom I was very attached, died June 1st 2005.Pluto was at 22 Sag, my NN is at 23 Sag.Pluto was at the end of my 4th house.

    I'm expecting to deal with death soon again, because my other grandfather is very, very sick.He's been sick for 20 years.Pluto won't make any significant aspects to my Sun, Moon or ASC anytime soon, but he will oppose my Cancer Mars.Cancer=family.

     
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    Jilly (wall)    USA   I got some Pluto on me.

    my parents, boss, 1 friend, 2 uncles, mother & father-in-law, 4 cats, 1 dog, 3 guinea fowl, 3 chickens... I'm probably forgetting some.

     
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    myrna (wall)    Texas  

    I just found out my father's birth time last week from his birth certificate.  It may be off by a few minutes as he was delivered by a midwife.  At the time of his death tr Pluto was within 1 minute aspecting his ASC and incj his natal sun and his progressed mercury was trine his ASC.  He died of complications of a long illness.

    A best friend of mine was murdered when Pluto was conjunct my moon, tr venus conjunct my Pluto, tr Chiron conjunct MC.

     

     

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