I am trying to balance my popularity/unpopularity (Libra).

I am somewhat popular for being unpopular but also unpopular for being popular.

Anyone have insight into this?

i'm the same. no insight. sorry.

i'm the rogue cell that disturbs all the other cells. some love it, some hate it.

ps. i just try to live with it. you love me, great. you don't, fine. not my problem. but i do think about it a lot.

I have no idea!!

You're an astrologer, right??

Throw us your chart.

Balance in your own life or for your business (this blog) or both?

You are who you are and that is part of what makes you good at what you do.

no insight either, but does it matter?  You know you're wonderful, so does the Rhino plus all of your real friends and family.  The rest of us out here either love or hate you but I don't think you should be worried about - you know, just keep living your truth, eh?

Maybe I'm deluded , but you def have more to go on . If you want balance, you have to be a little mean;-)I love you<3 .........but does the stones measure up equally? 

Like the hating trolls are pebbles right?

I think for motivational purposes , suck up the love...throw away the balance.

I don't know what I am answering or saying:)

<3<3<3<3

LOL iathina. for some reason you just made me laugh.

so i was just wondering... did we get off track?

what is this popular/unpopular business?

Throw a party.

Yes, throw a wildly unpopular party, but only invite popular people!

Invite only those that dispise you.  Then put your Saturn in Libra to work.

Keep us posted.

I like what iathina said, assuming I understood it correctly.

Hey, how do YOU balance what I see as being other people's stuff? Isn't it them that needs to balance their view of you or whatever? Also, sounds like some people be jealous.

Just be you. You're awesome just the way you are. Truly.

I am just going to drive down the center of this road the best I can... until I see an exit.

That is one helluva a nice frackin' road!  Love the photo!

Rocky Mountain high . . .

That's where I grew up. That road is in my book. :)

It's AZ, not CO. See the saguaro? They only grow in a 10 mile wide swath.

OMG that image is so beautiful.

Whenever you speak of the desert, I get envious. But then I think of the prairie, and I miss it. Then I think of the arctic and I feel lucky to be experiencing it. This earth is SO beautiful.

(I know. Off topic.)

I should have caught the cactus, being a Colorado gal myself. Damn.

I cannot share my insights because everyone would think I am the teachers pet and then they would hate me and I don't want to be hated. I like being liked except when it's too many people because that is just too discombobulating. Drive carefully on that beautiful highway Elsa!   

Well, I'd say you're popular because your a very light and funny person.  You like to entertain and people do like to be entertained.  But you also have Saturn, and well, most people aren't really found of saturn.  So you're popular (to those of us who try to work with saturn) for being unpoplular with those that don't like to deal with saturn.  The flip side of that is that you are unpopular (because of all your pluto/8th house stuff) for being popular.

I hope that made sense, it sure did in my own head, but just sounds diluted re-reading it.  Anyway, that'd be my "who's on 1st" kinda answer :)
Angie

I have no idea. But if you figure it out please let us know. I'm just trying to not get too excited about either reaction and be who I am.

I think that's the predicament of being popular.

There will always be someone "anti-popular". So being popular makes you their target.

Then again, there will always be people that are drawn to what's unpopular (Aquarius? Hipsters? I don't know).

I tend to distrust anyone who is universally popular - I wonder about the painting in the attic, and what they are hiding.

Anyone with a backbone, and trenchant views, who is willing to put their head above the parapet to say what they mean, is going to get shot at by the kind of people who don't tolerate dissent (these kinds of people tend to come from either extreme of the political spectrum)

If you are being attacked from both sides, I reckon you are pretty well balanced!

In fact any polemicist, and you are one in a sense, shouldn't worry about being attacked: just tell the truth as you see it. You always speak from EXAMPLE after all; it's not just theorizing is it?

Having haters means you're doing something right. Conformists will always lash out at anybody doing what she feels is right. To make them happy, you'd have to say what they can tolerate and not much more. Universal popularity means you're sucking up to everybody. Sites like that exist and they're generally boring, constrictive places. You don't see me there, do you?

driving down the middle of  the road sounds like a plan until  you get another one of your excellent ideas...

Sure I have insight into this! 

It means that people who don't want power and influence for themselves (attention) like that you voice what they can't, and those who wish more people paid attention to them resent you for having an audience.

You're an example of some unsatisfied need in these people and it causes an emotional reaction to you. 

Pixie, that makes a hell of a lot of sense!

I don't know how much help I can be with this whole popular/unpopular thing since I'm in the middle of trying to figure it out myself and have been since Saturn was in Virgo.

The balance is the sticky part.  I can be wildly popular, but in order to be, I'm not very authentic... For example, I prefer to entertain people in my home to going out, but feel that I have to go along when invited by my friends and the whole time I'm miserable inside.  Miserable yet popular obviously isn't ideal.

I seem to attract young women friends that look to me for a sympathetic ear and solid advice.  This makes me popular, but it's a very one sided relationship.  I've tried to balance this by admitting my own troubles from time to time, but this hasn't worked out so well.  I guess I'm not allowed to have any difficulties because they 'rely' on me so much, they can't accept that I'm not a solid rock 24/7.

So, as you can easily see- I'm not much help with this Elsa... but, at least it may be helpful to know you're not the only one struggling with this.

I've been toying with the idea that what I need to really balance is my Sunny Aries Sun (light hearted and fun loving) and my deep dark Scorpio Moon/Rising (good listener, advisor).  If I could comfortably get a handle on those energies, then maybe my relationships will reflect more of a balance?  I don't know.

I have always been, and always shall be, unpopular. I'm just happy if a smaller amount of people are cool with me at this point.

Hi jenfullmoon!

I screw this one up on a regular basis. On the other hand, I do not have very much control over what other people think or feel about me. I mean I could be mute and people would still have thoughts or feelings about me that I don't understand.    

I spent the better part of my life trying to be liked by everyone, my chiron is in the 11th house,  that I was never really myself.  Well how can anyone like you when you aren't real in a relationship, I have neptune in the 7th in libra.  

Well all I know is that behavior I described got me no where.  I am learning to be true to myself.  Hope you like it, cause when I sat in the middle of the road I got run over by people going in both directions.   

From now on if you like/love me it's cause you really, really, like/love/know me.  

that photo is gorgeous. I want to live in it. And open road....oh it's calling me.

There's a saying over here that's loosely translated as "a large tree gathers more wind". It means that as you grow greater and taller, you will have more people who admire you for what you are as well as more people who want to chop you down and burn you for their own uses. So it means you're growing, and there are both camps in your life. Go Elsa!

Also, Libra sees both sides, so there's a balance of conflict in your life too.

I've been thinking about this over the last couple days and what I have to do it get my book out there.  The sooner I can do it, the better because it's bound to change things one way or the other and I need this to happen.

First, I am pretty sure that anyone who reads it will think differently about me than they do now. I am talking about people on this site. They are bound to think differently and this may change the way they interact me.

Second, it may be bring people to the site. If this happens, the new people will mix with the old people and the new people will be what? New people! They are also not likely to be astrology people so very unpredictable.

Third...

Fourth...

I don't really know.  But I do think something has to shift so I am going to try to push this thing.

I don't think it is going to be long. HQ has to read through it and make recommendations. He may want something but I bet it's not another chapter.  We have to get a cover and once we do that, it can be pretty instantly available.

I am really lost right now.  The only thing I can do with confidence is work with people in consultation and perhaps write the newsletter, just because it's so isolated.  Everybody tells me conflicting things they want.  People want X when people complain about X and really, I am so co-dependent and people-pleasing, I have no idea what I want although I do like to consult, especially on the phone (bad wrist).

There is a chance the book will do nothing but that is also something I need to know.

Yes, a new book coming out and holding your own in the middle of the road ---- sounds like a good plan to me. Can't wait to read your book!

hmm i see your point, we all know about the book now tho, so a bit late to use a nom de plume, plus that probably defeats the objective of the book anyway, but you do really need to get it out there because it really matters to you and is a passion quite simply, something you are here to do, but are you supposed to risk everything for it.

As you can tell Elsa, i do relate to your struggle, but dont know what to say, I have libra too!

so i will hope for a win/win situation for you no matter what

Everything always comes out the way it should anyway. I feel okay. :)

Popular and unpopular at the same time? Sounds like me in highschool. Some girls were very mean to me because I was popular and a lot of girls were nice to me because I was popular!

This reminds me of a dynamic between me and a friend of mine. We get along great, like two peas in a pod. We're both intellectuals. He was a philosophy major in school. We have similar interests.

But there are these two big differences between he and I.

1. He's more conservative in his approach to things overall

2. He's primarily a feeler, while Im primarily a thinker, when it comes to social and some other situations.

Joe's methodical and conservative. He almost always plays it safe. Boxing analogy: Joe would jab and protect a lot. He'd watch technique all-around, pace the fight, and keep point-count in mind throughout. This is the type of boxer who would feasibly win a lot of boring 12-round decision matches.

Me, I'm fiery, passionate, and creative. I know how to jab, but won't use the heck out of them, at least not in the methodical way, because it bores me. What's fun about following the rules? I'd take chances, pull off trick moves, and 7 times, outta ten, instead of shooting a few jabs (low power, high security punches), to score points and sustain the pace, I'd wait for a rhythm, feign a jab and go for a big cross, or overhand right (high power, low security punches. They take longer to execute, and are therefore, more dangerous to attempt.), try to wobble this dude and take him out. If I miss, I miss. Hey, I'm quick enough to recover, and if he gets me, he gets me. More power to him. This is boxing, not accounting.

So, the other day, I realized that Joe is one of these guys that manages social relationships emotionally. He fels out the other person's reaction, and uses reactions as a guide. If a person winces a little when he's on a particular topic, or when he speaks a particular way, he changes up. It works very well for him. He's much better accepted in our circles than I am. He goes with the flow, keeps his head down, and never attracts enemy fire.

Me, I realized, am an idealist. I got this thing in my head, about what's ok and what's not, and I go with it. I just talk. I don't usually notice that so and so doesn't like intellectual rants. If the conversation goes there, then I'm finishing out my thought. Period. I never change up. I'm always me. I'm not inconsiderate. Honestly, people have told me I'm the genuinely nicest person theyve ever met. I just believe that feelings come second to principles and logic. If I do something wrong, it's embarrassing. I try to be right. But if it's revealed to me that I've made a boo-boo, then I gotta eat my embarrassed feelings, and do the right thing and apologize. Principle first. Fuck the feelings, theyre just markers.

Either way, while I'm well known and somewhat admired, I'm not popular. I attract haters.

While Joe is, fairly popular--more importantly, widely accepted-- and attracts no haters.

I could be like Joe, but I'd have to trade in a piece of myself. When you have acceptance, it's all you have. It's almost like standing still. Being overconservative stops you from being attacked, or going backwards. But it stops you from going forwards too. You gotta take risks to move. I think that's important when considering popularity.

A lady asked me one time, "Who is popular?" I named a few people. She said: "Do you want to be like them?" When I really thought about it, I didn't like, or admire any of the people I had named. I wanted thier popularity, but I really didn't agree with how they operated.

I thought I wanted to be popular. But I didn't I wanted to be me. Which I was and am.