Hi, ive never posted one of messags before, so I hope it lands in the right place. Ive always so badly wanted to contact someone else who has saturn in their 7th house. I was in my late 20's when I started wondering what the hell was going on in my life. Instinctively It felt as if I was not allowed a relationship. Every relationship experience I had seemed utterly fated. As I got older I did everthing from counsellors to self-help books to leaving it all to fate. Ive got to point many times where I was happy being by myself because everytime I tried to have a relationship, it ended up in so so much pain. Massive problems! that would leave my friends gasping at my bad luck.  People just do not know what to say to me anymore. Im all for taking on responsibility for personal choices ect, but I later found I had Saturn in my 7th house.

Im now nearly 42 and in fact in some respects its got worse. In my late 30's I developed a terrible disease of the bladder that makes sex in relationships almost impossible. The men I meet (who say they dont mind) tend to have lots of problems themselves which causes another lode of insurmountable obstacles. I get repeatedly dumped, deserted, lied to and messed about. Situations that look so promising on the suface are fraught with complications underneith. As a result I typically spend years on my own recovering from relationships, each time the recovery takes longer. It takes along time to get to the point where im really ok again.

I dont want to blame astrology for any personal faults or that I may have real deficiencis in coping with or choosing relationships. But, Im told by my good friends and family that I am not an unreasonable, nieve or demanding person to be with. Is this Saturn at its absolute worse in the 7th house? Is there any hope for my heart to get warmed up after all this icy coldness.

I met someone in August last year (after an eclipse actually). He is very different, in that he is older than me by about 14 years. But, he is also highly unusual character in that he has always lead a nomadic life style, no long term relationships either. Can anyone give me some encoraging storys about 7th house Saturn please! (Ps, Im a cancerian with libra rising, he is a libran, satrun returns to libra next year I think). Ellie

Hi Ellie,

I'm a Libra with a Saturn Sun conjunction, I also have hard time with relationships, but I do not blame saturn so much, I just think he leads me to a lonely lifestile, unless I find the "perfect relationship" wich satisfy my libra need for simmetry.

Maybe it will help to search more in other planets the behaving path you are dealing with.

Bye

Ellie- So sorry to hear about the struggles you've had with relationship.

I can't speak to your situation directly, but I can say that I have Saturn in the 7th, sq. my moon, and yes, there are defintiely challenges and it involves work. But it does work. I have been married, it will be 20 years in a few months, and am very happy. (I"m also around your age.) So it's doable.

I would suggest you get a paid consult with Elsa so she can look over your chart as a whole and help give you specific strategies for dealing with the entire picture of your chart, and how it all interacts. Elsa particilarly shines at giving specific, usable advice in such situations and I am willing to bet you'll feel both empowered and relieved at the end of your consult.

Thankyou so much, its really good to here about this from you both. Your situation is So encoraging Godess. It seems that durability and happiness is possible with this scairy plannet arround. Im wondering, if challenges, obstacles and responsibility are are characteristics of Satun in this portion of a chart, then a life of singledom as i had resigned myself to be (after living like Bridget Jones for years) might just be too easy. That would explain why relationhips come to me in the most unusual circumstances and especially when Im enjoying being alone. For example, I met the my current partner in a grave yard of all places!! Anyway, If the point is to deal with relationship issues, then I guess there will always be relationships to deal with. Ive been reading so much on the net and in books about Saturn, but in the end I just hearing from other people who are living/coping with Saturn in their 7th house is enlightening. I will definitely sort a chart out, because the charts Ive had before have glossed over this aspect. Elliej

Hi Ellie,

Your post was very interesting. I don't have Saturn in the 7th but wanted to tell you of a book that I found invaluable concerning Saturn. When my copy finally falls apart I will definitely replace it.

Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil

by Liz Greene

If you use the link on

http://www.elsaelsa.com/

at the bottom right you can check it out at Amazon.com. If you use the link and purchase it from them it will give Elsa a small commission.

Best regards,

Daem

I do. I was married and got divorced. Then had some really crappy and hurtful relationships. And I feel the same way you do. You are not alone Ellie!

Ive been busy over the past 2 months reading just about everything I could get my hands on about Saturn in my 7th house. It's been a bit of an orderal. Like some accident you can take your eyes off, the more I read the more I thought I just dont want to know this stuff it's grim but I kept on reading.. Old texts and vedic is the worse. Like I had some kind of curse or Ive been given some sort of diagnosis. Then, learning more about the modern view and psychology involved in the natal chart I got back a bit hope. This has re-instated feelings of control over my life (my backround is psychology too).  Anyway, Im still not sure what the best is that can be hoped for under adverse astrological circumstances. For example, you can work on the tensions in you life by learing about your natal disposition, projection etc but what's the point if you have some maleific planet taking pot shots at you for your entire life.

All this inquiry and book searching has come about because my current (and rather new) relationship of 11 months is actually going really well. Thats not good! Lol! Im scared out of my tree because I keep thinking/reading that Im not astrologically alowed this kind of lucky break. My partner is much older yes very Saturn. But as far  as being a cold, controling high maintenence alcoholic who will marry for money not love. No way! So Im left wondering greaf is there left round the corner? Surely the "paintently enduring sadness" I keep reading about and that is predicted under this disposition will ensure that this lovely relationhip will all end in tears! Oh heavens, I realise that if he dosent leave me he will probably die pretty soon!.. perhaps I will finish with him to avoid the all pain Lol.

Im just joking, but myy point is that the whole Saturn thing is all getting a bit circular. Im getting all anxious and saturnian worring about it!  Afterall, im really stuffed I think. Apparently, my Saturn is in fall in Aries and to turn the screw a bit more I have this nasty little Lillith in there as well!! Does anybody know how lillith and Saturn get in together? Please tell me they dont kill each other in the end.

EllieJ - sounds like you have yourself on the merry-go-round heading towards a self-fulfilling prophecy.  I'd step off if I were you.  Meaning I'd either take the advice of getting a FULL reading of your ENTIRE chart from Elsa, or stop worrying about Saturn and start enjoying the relationship you do have. 

YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP - isn't that what you're saying you're lacking???  Huh?  You've got one.  Make the best of it!!!  Go girl!!! 

you have a choice:

you can soak up every negative thing you read re: saturn in the 7th, internalize all the worry, fear the shadow of impending doom and question every second of happiness you have from the relationship you've found until you have no joy left because you're constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.

or you can accept the reality of YOUR experience and feel gratitude for the partnership and happiness you've found. with a partner who does, indeed, positively embody saturn qualities for goodness sakes. (that qualifies as an expression of the energy already!)

you don't need an astrology book to tell you what your experience is.

and besides: so what if it doesn't last forever? would you rather spend the time you are together treasuring this relationship, loving this man and living every bit your life there is to be lived...or experiencing fear and sadness obsessively ruminating over a currently nonexistant future grief? that teeters on self-fullfilling prophecy.

there is no question some people have hard lives in one or many areas, and it's expressed in their chart. but even the person with the hardest life there is will not necessarily be unhappy. just like elsa says, every gift is a curse in exact proportion and vice versa.

p.s. WAITING a long time for a partner is another expression of Saturn in the 7th. You may have already paid your dues. Lighten up on the worry and enjoy your man already, Dixie says (as if she had some Cardinal energy).

Yeah it's what's in your composite chart that matters anyway. Get Elsa to do up a composite with this man and get the real scoop.

This is brilliant, thanks guys I read and re-read all your comments. Learning about Saturn, scairy though it's been, has given me insight. Alot of it seems to be about seeing the consequences of the choices we make or facing the impact of how we handle our selves within relationships. Although there is a whole heap of complications or restiction that goes with Saturn, there also seems to be something very re-assuring about it. I think your left facing yourself in many ways. Uncomfortable yes, but I suppose you have to take responsibility for what you do even if in hindsight you have behaved like a total berk. You cant be manipulative, passive, neurotic or shrink away from responsibility in relationshis because if you do the consequences will be made very apparent. That alone seems to build an inner strength which is very real, mature and reliable

... I did get a composite chart done with my partner by a friend. That read like a greek tragerdy as well! So now Im off to study the chaos of Uranus and the fickle nature of a Moon in Gemini (not mine, his.. and that will be another post on the 'comitment phobic' board hey!). But your absolutely right, what ever happens you definitely have to live your life. And truly appreciate the good stuff when it arrives.... Ps, I also found out that David Bowie has Saturn in his 7th house and thats just about as hunky dory as it gets! 

How does one comment on a composite chart (me and hubby)? Sun in Sag/Moon & Venus in Scorpio all in the 7th  house? Is this a greek tragedy, or just a union where we plod along dragging the burden and albatrosses behind us? I'm really concerned? Are we doomed?

We've been married for 22 years and together for 25. I need some input.  Thanks. 

Hi Ellie,
Just came across your post as I'm new. I can totally relate, though I do not have Saturn in any of my houses. Though as a Virgo, I have had it hovering like a Flying Pig over a Crack House! Man, I wish we could blow this planet out of the solar system! It seems to serve no good purpose (though, I'm sure it does somehow).

Since your story is so similar to mine with both health and romance problems long-term, I'm wondering if yours is something other than Saturn in the 7th house. Are you a Virgo? I agree you should have Elsa do you full chart. I plan to do the same soon.

As a side note, I suffered from chronic urinary tract infections and just discovered I have a urinary fistula caused by a Vespa/Scooter accident almost 5 years ago! I will need sugery! Fortunately it had not impeded my sex life, though it seemed to be headed that direction. Thought I would mention a "fistula" as a possible thing to consider since this had stymied all my doctors for years in case it helps you or someone reading this. Good luck!

Wait, Capricorn in the 7th house is the same as Saturn, isn't it? If so, then I do have it!

Vespa - Yes, Capricorn is ruled by Saturn, so you'll have Saturn influence in your 7th house.

No doubt about it, Saturn in the 7th house sucks...big time! One big disastrous relationship after another but i'm not bitter about it  Sorry Ellie, I don't have an encouraging story but I'm right there with ya so you're not alone, in fact your original post pretty much sums up my life too.

VespaChick, Saturn IS in ONE of your houses!

so Saturn in your 7th house might just point to an older partner. I don't see why it always has to be negative; Saturn can be really really good for you. I have it in my 6th house and I'm pretty sure that it helps me with my art work. It has to do with how Saturn is aspected by other planets and signs how bad or good it is in your chart, and even that changes with the continuing onslaaught of positive and negative transiting aspects.

Saturn has been anything but good for me--being a Virgo!

And an OLDER partner, now that I'm in my 40's, I was just ramping up to become a COUGAR! Damn!

I have Saturn in my 7th house. I have yet to experience a meaningful relationship.

 - also, I am in the midst of a troubled marriage.

HI folks, I am Indian Man 35 year, i have saturn in my 7th house. Venus and Mercury is also in my 7th House

I am really facing lot-off diffuclties holding a relationship. The more strong i become to hold my relationship, its just taking in reverse direction to cut-off from me. If i don't discuss any in relationship and my partner just needs that.

I was with Love with my girl at 29, but didn't stand atall... i was so depressed,lot of worries, fears... let me go for it or not.. i believe both loved each other some moments of the day, rest of the days its cold.. and broke-up and shed got married with other man.

After this, I got married, so that i thought i would get bonding in relationship,love etc... it's the  its the same... as above...its almost 5 years most, we never broke-up, the thing, we broke living separetely, at times i make my efforts to go back to save my marriage.. again broke-up living separetely. I would we will together in one house only about 9 months totally of 5 years. Currently, we are just seperated.. she can't stand my words and i can't stand my words.. We are just seperted at the moment.. feel very lonely, fear, depression... don't how to proceed....at time i make some strong efforts to call my partner, there is again something or other type of rejections.

My stong sense of feeling now my next to her or from her would end-up.. this is happening, since 5 years but not ending-up neither living together happily.

Please HELP, your advice here is really appreciated.

Thanks

With Best Regards

Kris

I don't know Kris, but here's something to try:

let her know that you'd really like a chance to talk with her, ask her for the opportunity to talk with her.  let it be her choice.  if she says no, kindly accept it.  wait a week or so.  kindly ask again.  if you get the opportunity to talk with her, kindly ask her what it is she needs to be happy in your marriage.  tell her you'd like some time to think about and then really think it over.  if you can do what it is she asks, tell her that.  then do it.

I'm sure there are things that YOU need to be happy in the marriage too.  let that come later.  work on YOUR side of things.  if it's possible to make it work, she will realize that she wants to ask what YOU need, eventually. 

Ellie J.

 I have Saturn ruling my 7th house (Capricorn descendant).  It cannot be all doom and gloom ( I keep telling myself  and my mother that; though I haven't married yet).   It absolutely doesn't favor jumping into a marriage with someone. To see why you are having trouble, you'd have to look at your whole chart -- (i.e. what aspects Saturn is making to other planets, what the ruler of your 7th is doing).  Jupiter in the seventh house isn't necessarily great either (multiple marriages, super gassy partner!) 

:D

Wow...am I ever glad I found this site. Ellie, I am a fellow Saturn in 7th compatriot. I think there has been a lot of good advice offered to you in terms of dealing with it and being positive. I do believe those factors can help mitigate. But I must tell you that except for the medical issue, my experience has been parallel to yours.

I am also a Cancer but with a Leo rising and a stellium in Gemini (merc, venus and mars) so I think those have saved my sensitive Cancer heart on more than one occasion. I am wiser from my Saturn in 7th House experience now, and it doesn't pack quite the punch that it use to, maybe because I've yielded to it more in my 40's. Plus, I've read a lot about it, too. Some of the reading has helped greatly and like you, some of it just confirms thoughts I've had for a long time - that this is perhaps my Life's overarching purpose - encountering hard lessons through relationships (not just romantic, either), developing Grace and learning to deal with it all with as much aplomb as I can muster. And helping others to do the same.My friends say I give the best advice - perhaps Dear Abby had her Saturn in the 7th as well. lol She was a Cancer, I know that.

I do feel strongly that our natal sun in Cancer contributes to the level of pain that we feel through these 7th house lessons. I also take a long time to recover from them and I have reached the point of finding it more enjoyable living alone. That is, having my own house and friends and interests, even if I'm involved with someone. I don't know that I will ever be able to completely mesh with a mate or blend lives. There is too much risk from my standpoint and at my age, I haven't had the experience of being married to someone for many years and/or raising children with a partner. (Although I do have one daughter - a Scorpio. Her father is a Capricorn. Surprise, surprise).

In my earlier years I felt really set apart from others, like I didn't belong. Now, that could certainly be a combination of many other things but the common denominator usually points back to my 7th House Saturn. One interesting observation is that all of my exes have tried to come back at least once. I've heard several times over that they hadn't found the depth equivalent in another partner, hadn't felt LOVED to the same degree. I think we are too evolved for the majority of partners - and I certainly do not mean that in an arrogant way. On the contrary, the evolvement comes from forced humility and resulting acceptance - the very opposite traits of arrogance.

It's just that so many others out there are to afraid of getting real with themselves, or others. I end up being a little too much reality and intensity for the average mate. I often get told I am very deep, and yes, they say it like it's a bad word. :)

 Anyway, I digress. I was just so relieved to find your posts - and the others who responded that I just started typing away. Thanks for indulging my theories. Going back to the beginning, I do believe that there are some things we can do to mitigate the experience but at the same time, if you can just learn to lean into it all, then it becomes almost fascinating, and a badge of honor of sorts. I don't know if I have articulated that well but what I'm trying to say is that if Life truly is about the Inner Journey -- then you, my friend, are schooled well beyond the masses. Think of it as a sort of a Saturn Ph.D. It may set you apart from certain others, but in a desirable way. Think of all the learning they have yet to do...you're way ahead of the game.

I hope some of this has helped you. I'll check back again soon. Be well.

Oh wow, Allison your post is just brilliantly written and so well observed. Your post echo's so many thoughts that I have had and you put it in such a down to earth way. Im so glad that you have got to that significant point where you realise that a single life is not the despairing mysery that you might have predicted it to be. In fact, I find there is an unquestionable comfort in ones own self-sufficiency that gets very difficult to give up. Accepting that relationships generaly can be a restriction can help alot. It definitely seems to be getting easier as I get older for this reason.

You said:-'I do feel strongly that our natal sun in Cancer contributes to the level of pain that we feel through these 7th house lessons'. I absolutely could not agree more. How astrologially mean is it that a person can be born so designed to nurture, dream and feel Everything get landed with a 7th house Saturn, right in the very place that makes you tick. Its like constantly finding nails in your nice soft bed... But, like you say, you sort of earn something here..perhaps a master in Saturnology.

I can't help wondering, just how much difference it makes if your Saturn in afflicted or not? Saturn has its benefits and I know there are people out there with Saturn in the 7th who are happy. But, are there some placements that really do just render it a usless pain in the chart!

Ive been away from this site for a few months on account of issues relating to all of the above Lol. But was stunned at all the really sportive posts about Saturn in the 7th that have been written since.

It strikes me that Saturn in the 7th house could indicate fulfillment in this regard that comes later in life (as goddess has stated).  Saturn requires persistence over time to work with, sometimes over great spans of time so don't lose hope.  That which is built by Saturn is incredibly strong.  Take heart that this placement can strengthen you far beyond the normal in this area of effect if you can accept the burden.  If you can accept it, also you need not lament so much, and you can become a pillar of strength.

No, Ellie - YOU are the brilliant one and a great, creative writer. Thanks also for your other message. I'm sure we're starting to sound like a mutual 7th House Saturn admiration society but seriously folks, if you haven't experienced this to the level that we've described, then you may not be able to appreciate the instant affinity I had for this person.

 I did smile at the post by Joules above - short but to the point and very honest. The lamenting part made me laugh out loud. You're not a Cancer if you don't lament. That's our signature style. :) (Sorry Ellie - I'll speak for myself on that one)

Joking aside, I do get the point and it's a good one, Joules. I certainly don't want to wallow in this stuff and I really don't think that I do for the most part. My impression is that this is a positive forum to share openly and I've talked more about my own experience in those few paragraphs above than I have to anyone.

 There just aren't a lot of people out there that you can walk up to and say "Hey - where's your Saturn?" Even some of my good friends have no concept of astrology or anything of the like. So I hope that explains my exuberance for Ellie's post a little better. My intent is not to use this 7th House Saturn stuff as a crutch or excuse for every bad thing that happens in my life, and certainly NOT for pity. The last thing I want is to be pitied.

And this is clearly not the only factor operating in my world. But it is a significant one and I seek to understand it better so that I can optimize the good parts which are along the lines of what you've already shared.

It has become more of a spiritual quest for me at this point and the payoff with Saturn is usually big. Saturn's tough love will teach all of us important lessons and discipline no matter where it resides in a chart. It was just nice to find someone with a similar 7th House experience after all these years.

And who else to better lament with than a fellow Cancer? lol 

 Thanks again, Ellie, Joules and others. Talk again very soon. Peace. :)

I find this fascinating, in part because my own experience with 7th house Saturn is so different from what the original poster and some of the rest of you have described. 

Astro details:

My DC is at 13 degrees Leo, and Saturn sits on it at 15 degrees Leo.  Venus is at 28 degrees Scorpio.  Aside from the opposition to my AC, Saturn is not making hard aspects to any other planets.  Venus is opposed by Jupiter and conjunct my MC.  Sun in Libra is unaspected except for an opposition to Chiron, but is 3 degrees away from Juno (a wide orb for a conjunction with an asteroid, but potentially relevant here).

Life experience:

I never lacked for partners in my youth, and tended to follow a pattern during my teen years: year-long monogamous relationship, break-up, briefly date multiple people simultaneously, settle into new monogamous relationship for the next year.  Repeat.

At the end of my senior year of high school, I began dating a young man who was two years older than me.  We fell in love. I graduated high school and went to a college 1100 miles away.  He and I talked on the phone once a week and only saw each other every three months.

The next year I transferred to a university that was only 80 miles away from him - but neither of us had a car.  We bought a used hatchback and shared it, seeing each other every other weekend for the next four years.  On our fifth anniversary, he proposed.  A few months later we moved 900 miles away from our home towns and began living together.  Due to outside circumstances, we didn't get married for another eight years, right after our 13th anniversary (and near the end of my Saturn return).

This spring, we will have been married for three years and together for 16 years.  Those years weren't all romantic bliss (although there was plenty of that) and smooth sailing; we had rocky patches and we continue to work very hard at our relationship.  Neither he nor I nor the relationship itself is a static entity.  Each grows and changes and requires constant, minute adjustments... and when we fail to notice those changes or make those little adjustments, things can get out of whack and require a major overhaul.  But, we love each other and we make those changes.

And it's worth it.  So very, very worth it.  We are not perfect and neither is our love, but what we have is deep, enduring, and real.  It is both precious and strong, and I can believe in it, trust it, and rely on it.  But... I didn't always feel that way.  For years I was insecure, jealous, and afraid.  I couldn't believe my luck, and I was constantly waiting for the rug to be pulled out from beneath me, for the betrayal or abandonment that thankfully never came.  If they had, I would have been right back to square one in terms of my ability to accept and receive love, as well as to give it freely.  It took a damn long time and a big dose of maturity in addition to my partner's steadfast patience and persistence in love for me to be able to enjoy what I have.  All very Saturn stuff.

I guess I just wanted to chime in to say that Saturn isn't always all doom and gloom, and I hope this gives a ray of hope to those of you struggling with Saturn in your 7th houses.  :)

quoting Allison: 

"In my earlier years I felt really set apart from others, like I didn't belong. Now, that could certainly be a combination of many other things but the common denominator usually points back to my 7th House Saturn. One interesting observation is that all of my exes have tried to come back at least once. I've heard several times over that they hadn't found the depth equivalent in another partner, hadn't felt LOVED to the same degree. I think we are too evolved for the majority of partners - and I certainly do not mean that in an arrogant way. On the contrary, the evolvement comes from forced humility and resulting acceptance - the very opposite traits of arrogance.

It's just that so many others out there are to afraid of getting real with themselves, or others. I end up being a little too much reality and intensity for the average mate. I often get told I am very deep, and yes, they say it like it's a bad word. :) "

um, can I join the Saturn in my 7th club?  Because this describes my patterns to a t.  The good and the bad, the payoff and the negative.  And the whole "older partners" thing is bizarre, because I've been attracted to older men since I was still in single digits!  I just ended a three-year relationship with a man twenty-two years older than me, which was one of the most rewarding and fulfilling partnerships I've had--I think because of the whole me being "a little too much reality and intensity for the average mate," he was one of the first people I met who could handle it.  Wisdom and experience and all that, I suppose.  I've been told since I was a kid that I've got an old soul (and, by the way, how the hell do you respond to that?  It always flusters me...hah!) and I've ALWAYS felt like an outsider--my dad has a term for it.  Terminal spectator.

One thing I've noticed, too, that I do CONSISTENTLY with partners is to try to breathe more depth and meaning into the relationship (or them, as mean as that sounds) than either has.  Instead of just recognizing that it's the wrong one and moving on!  I try to fabricate the depth I need from a relationship, but hot damn it's too much effort to sustain for any length of time!  Thus creating all kinds of unnecessary hell for myself.  I completely empathize with having a difficult time finding someone who can handle your intensity, and with the bizarre boomerang of them coming back and saying they've never been so well loved.  Yeah, but we didn't REALLY connect!!

And being alone is almost always easier for me.  I crave relationships, of course, but I find myself fulfilled being alone...other than that scary voice that tells me I'm going to wander the Earth for the rest of my life, accompanied only by...myself.  But, as George Washington said, better to be alone than in bad (in my scenario, not particularly fulfilling) company. Of course, my ex, in a completely non-malicious way (he just wasn't malicious, ever) told me that I'm going to live a very lonely life.  And, unfortunately or no, it made me nod my head.  Makes perfect sense, as this has been a pattern in my life since day one.

But, as other posters have said, Hurrah for the PhD in Saturn studies!  I feel as though I've learned so much from this strange pattern, and now I know who to thank.  Both for the stab-me-in-the-face painfulness of isolation, and the infinite rewards when that isolation is self-imposed or necessary because of the dearth of relationship options.  It's a good feeling, to be able to twist that energy into relishing yourself in your entirety, no strings attached.

Well, now that I've written a book (apologies, it just came out!), thanks to all for a very interesting read and a wonderful way to start off my day in the midst of my delightfully agonizing singledom! xoxox

 Hi all.  I have Saturn at the end of the sixth house and conjunct the descendant.  I consider this to be Saturn in the seventh.  It is also square Neptune and opposite my Leo ascendant.  I have a tough time with relationships too.

 However, my tough experience is a different version of saturn here.  I got married very young and it didn't last.  I've read a person with Saturn here shouldn't marry before 30!  I remarried at 37 and it's better.  I feel like I can handle it.

My experience of marriage is as one of duty and responsibility as well as love.  It's alot of work.  Sometimes I wish we could sit back more but my husband also has a seventh house Saturn.  We have to try to have fun - pencil it in. 

 Maybe Saturn here says it will take longer for things to happen but when they do, it will be worth it.  Also if you do the work, Saturn gets easier with time. 

Wow. For some reason this resonates really emotionally with me. I am actually feeling incredible empathy with some of these posts. The difference for me is that I have Venus in Capricorn in the second house but my 7th is ruled by Venus. But somehow, I haven't really ever been successful in relationships either (even my marriage though long lasting brought a lot of pain). So I am not sure why this resonates so strongly as far as the 7th house goes but I did notice that my Venus is Quincunx Saturn.

Ive discovered 2 more people with a 7th Saturn and its so interesting I thought I would post it out of interest. My father has Saturn in 7th and in Aquarius. He split from my mother over 25 years ago and he was definitely the hurt one at the time. In all the years since he has only had one breaf relationship. Maybe it's because his Saturn is in aquarius that admits he was never 'marrage material' because the whole thing stiffels him. When he feels restricted he becomes a moody man, needing his freedon and worrying about money all the time. People find him excentric as he is an individual who likes to flit between dependency and obscurity depending on his needs. Over the many years that has passed since their divorce my mother and father have become the most unusual friends. Its like the marrage never ended but romance of any sort could not be further away. Their relationship has endured, but in a bitter sweet way as they feel terribly responsible for eachother! How utterly Saturn.

The other Saturn 7th person is a good friend of mine. She did not marry until she was 50 and this was her choice. Her Saturn is well placed in Libra and she is happy and her marrage appears to be full of entertainment and travel. Even if she did have to wait a life time for it!

Elliej

dawn, the venus in capricorn is going to be similar energy to saturn in the 7th.

Thanks goddess! This explains everything! also my love interest has his 7th house ruled by Saturn in Capricorn, and my Venus sits there in his chart. Would this bring pain or a gentle friendliness? Or would it explain why we/me/he feel so responsible towards each other though things did not work out as EllieJ's post reflects?

I too have Saturn in 7th house......

Wherever we have saturn in our charts we try to overcompensate and unless we are sure about it our own behavior lands us in problems...

For all Saturn in 7th or linked with Venus try not to control relationships....Saturn makes us fearful that we loose the person and we try to control the relationship and person..

this acts as a SELF FULFILLING Prophesy and our own actions to control drives the other person away....Where we have Saturn in our charts we need time and efforts to grow in that area.....with Saturn also immature flings will not last...

Unless Saturn in 7th house has some really difficult aspects with say Venus or 7th/5th ruler ....one should get someone after the first Saturn Return..

Since it rules the natural 10th house generally with Saturn we will have a parent/child relationship with our partner 

Saturn in 7th also means that the person will feel a stronger call of duty inside the relationship....(as compared to his partner)

anyways no matter how good/bad is the placement of Saturn it will ALWAYS reward efforts......

From my limited knowledge when Saturn has easy aspects we take the lessons easily (realization and the efforts to rectify them)while with difficult ones we tend to resist making those changes and the tension/problems just keeps increasing....

We need to become more responsible, cut down on expectations, with time/efforts bonds become stronger...

however with a very very difficult saturn positioning....it can repeatedly destroy relationships...these have strong karmic touch to them and am not sure then what one should do:(... (they say maybe in previous births we kindaa abused relationships and in this birth they or others will come to pay us back)

Hi Genius, its interesting what you say about very difficult placements and relationships having some karmic influence. My Saturn is just filthy. It opposes and squares everything in my chart that could be a help in building warm, co-operative and close relationships. I must have been a total bitch from hell in a past life! There also seems to be a thematic link with planets in the 12 house here ...

Im also wondering if this placement can also cause problems with pets? Has anyone else noticed this? They a 'relationship' after all and they make the best companions when love is disapointing but oh lord, I just have so many problems with them as well! 

These posts really resonate with me...I have a 0 degree Saturn in Pisces in the 7th square my 28 degree Venus in Scorpio in the 4th...ironically, my Saturn sextiles my late degree Sun/Mercury in Sagittarius in the 5th. All of these odd out of sign, late degree aspects add a level of complexity to my character that challenge me constantly.

I have struggled through one very bad 12-year relationship when I was much younger, a couple of mediocre unfulfilling relationships and many years of solitude. I am constantly thinking of relationships and finding a man who will "get" my complexities. I have been searching for years, trying on different relationships, discarding them and suffering while I've done so. Now I think I've found him but am in a holding pattern right now while he sorts out his own issues. And yes saturn will need me to be with an older man because even though younger ones are alot of fun, they haven't had enough crap happen to them yet to understand me.

EllieJ about your question about pets, I haven't had a bad experience with pets. I've had a couple of cats and enjoyed good relationsihps with all of them!

Wow!!! i was blown away when i read all comments i have a 7th house saturn conjunct sun and mars, all in the 7th  i'm a leo rising and ...yes i have had a VERY tough time in regards to realationships, although mercury sits in the 6th its close to the 7th house cusp opposing my DESC

I have had 3 significant realationships that lasted between 3 years and 10 years where by i had 3 children from each realationship ....all 6 or 7 years older than me (have never been attracted to younger guys) ... although now i wish i was!!! not met an older guy who can physically keep  up...LOL  I married one and and it lasted 10 years i divorced in 2002 and have difficulyt establishing a realationship...but i know why...for the first time in my life i have understood my 7th house, while i was younger i just had to be in a realationship any a realationship good or bad...actually more bad than good, abusive and drug and alcoholic dependancies and selfish men was what i seemed to attract, which seemed to spiral me into depression

Now i understand what is required of me for choosing a mate, i will not settle for less, if i have doubts and it does not feel right then i know its not for me.. better to be alone than be in a relationship that is not going to nourish you thank you Saturn for teaching me what is required for a fulfilling  relationship to last, btw i have  my moon in Gemini...LOL

Welcome, sheerbliss. :)