This is just stunning. Annalisa is sending pictures of my mother on her death bed,  you know why?  So that she does not have to bear this alone.  It is to diffuse (Neptune) the burden (Saturn).  She just doesn't want to see this in a vacuum, do you understand? Either do I, and so I am writing this.

We have those charts that overlay each other, most of you know. If you want to make an argument for Equal Houses (I am totally sold f course), Saturn is on the angle of our chart... on the midpoint between her angle and mine. I am 25 degrees, she is 26, see?  Saturn is @ 25Libra46

You can set you watch by this stuff...I always say and this is because I have watched this for decades and this is how it is.

I understand the idea of diffusing the burden, yes. I have Saturn/8th trine Neptune/12th.

Sending love to you and Annalisa, both xo

Wow. I was wondering about your charts...

Thank you for sharing, Elsa.

Anyway, today's picture is worse than yesterday's though they were taken at the same time. Yesterday, it was a picture of a woman who was dying. This picture looks like a woman who has passed.  It's very dark in the room, see. It's all in shadow.  You people who like dark paintings would hang this on you wall. I'm not kidding. She's wearing red.

I am not horrified right now, though I know this mood will pass.  It's just too complex for words and this is as much a gift as it is anything else.

I totally understand that.

BP, I have no transit to my Moon. Annalisa does.  This is the angles of the chart that are activated. They are very powerful and I think people miss a lot with other house systems (sorry).

Annalisa has Neptune to Moon Jupiter in Sadge and yes, he mother will take a journey but this is HARSH. It has lines and limits everywhere we turn.  It is not some dreamy Jupiter Neptune thing her by any stretch.  It's harsh reality hitting all angles - for example, this is public, is it not?

 so do I

@Elsa: yes, it is a gift. I held vigil over my father earlier this year and it changed me in ways I cannot go into here. You and Annalisa are special for doing this. Blessings to you.

PS my son has Pluto T the IC and it appears he will lose 4 grandparents in rapid fashion. Angles again, okay? They cannot and will not be denied.

That's extraordinary. Poor Vid! What a rite of passage that will be

Annalisa's images recording your mother's passing are in a rich tradition, by the way

Monet's record of his wife Camille as she died (scroll down page):

http://www.intermonet.com/exhibit/bremen/

Dorothy Todd's painting of her ded mother, Anne:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/jun/22/last-portrait-of-mother-portrait

I see why some might consider this ghoulish. Not me. It is (at the risk of sounding ghoulish myself) rather, a powerful and profound expression of love and shared sacrifice/burden.

I don't pretend to understand the astrology well enough yet to understand all that you've written here, Elsa. Its only in the last several years that I've begun to recognize and explore this expression as a core element of how I view and relate to experience, events and self/other.

But I completely understand the need to not to experience things, especially deeply transformative, painful things, in a vacuum. This kind of sharing is, to me too, integral and vital mutual support between closely bonded, trusting people.

Mostly, always, much love to you all.

(((Elsa & family)))

xoxo

I can understand the need to not bear this alone.. It's a powerful life event indeed. 

That is also true in my case. T. Pluto was on my IC in sadge when my father (sun sadge) passed away.. And within 3 years, a few more pasings in our family. 

Thanks for sharing Elsa..

Saturn was directly opposed to my moon when my mother died.  

I know how this is, especially for Annalisa.  I was the main caretaker for both my mother and father when they passed.  Yes, others in the family were there, but I was the one holding them together, giving her her shots because we kept her at home, calling the family when she passed.  I was only 23. 

Death is a part of life, and believe it or not, there will be hidden gifts that will arise in time after this has all passed.  My love to both you and Annalisa.  You are lucky to have each other. 

Maybe a tad shocking to some, but ghoulish ? No. My impression of your mother's picture and Annalisa's need to document her transition to non-physical is 'raw, poignant, and tender'; not ghoulish. My heart goes out to you & yours, Elsa. I hope that you and Annalisa are steadied by love and support, through this difficult time.

((((Annalisa and Elsa))))

I am sorry you are hurting, all I can offer is love and silent tears.  

I see this as similar to watching war movies with my husband.  He may talk about the chaos of war and that's one thing but when you have a visual to match the words, it's far more powerful.  This is true in general but particularly when there are movies of actions he was personally involved in. 

Let's face it. I say things on this blog all the time and no one knows what the hell I am talking about.  But then I put a picture up... I am barefoot in the desert and you begin to realize I did not grow up the way you did, at all.

I do not know where you came from, I know not where you are going. But I do know where you are right now,  I just know, I don't need words or pictures.  Just listening quietly

Ghoulish no...when my late brother was dying 9 years ago we spoke of how we in the USA fear death.  He reminded me how death was part of the cycle of life which intellectually I know is true.  I miss him dearly we were like twins yet here I am speaking of him so in a sense he is still very alive to me.  The gift, for me, he lives on in memories and thought which continues to bring me great joy.  I wish you and yours the same when the time comes.  Take care, Patrice.

(((((Patrice)))))

but when you have a visual to match the words, it's far more powerful

Totally understandable.  Much love to all, and strength to get through this.

Its prolly far more cathartic that she is able to do this.....

I am thinking of you both and your family 

I think the picture of your mother looks like a piece of art.  I can totally understand Annalisa's desire to not feel in a vacuum and how sharing your mother's image with you would help to bring you 'in with her'.

Images, as you've written, have a way of illuminating things that sometimes words are incapable of doing.

I've not lost my mother yet... and am so grateful for your willingness to share this journey with us.  Very few of us will escape the loss of our parents and yet, it's a subject that is rarely ever explored... until that time comes.

to you and Annalisa...

Not ghoulish. And sharing it is a good thing. Not just for you to relieve her, but for you to be a part of it as well, even though you are far away. 

It's for both of you, for different reasons, and I hope it helps you both. 

((Special hug to Vid)) 

CArRiE, if you mean the picture above, that is me, not my mother.

(((Elsa)))

Carrie meant the image of the old lady -

Carrie, that's a C19th image of an old lady dead or dying by an Italian artist whose name I forget. I think Elsa was using it as an example of the genre of the deathbed portrait; it's probably of the artist's mother

Many artists have made such portraits. Fact is we now all carry cameras with us in our phones - we can all be 'artists' and record such tremendous life events

Oh, I am sorry. Yes, that's a painting. I am sorry did not name the artist. Now I can't find it. :(

Portrait of a dead woman Artist: Mosè di Giosuè Bianchi, (1840-1904 )

I understand this.  It's like how when my dad died I came on here to talk about it, cause I just couldn't handle it in isolation.  Some things need to be shared.

Much love to you and Annalisa.

I remember all this very clearly. You will never be the same. It's one of those things no one can explain to you until you've walked the path yourself. There's unimaginable depth to it. Love to you both.

Odd, my cousin posted to Facebook over thanksgiving about a friend who was suddenly diagnosed with terminal brain cancer that would kill her within 48 hours. She posted her deathbed photos a few days ago. I was aghast. I didn't want her personal moment of death in my consciousness for eternity. I found it ghoulish in my case. Between sisters, and not on Facebook, I could understand.

I can clearly remember people calling me ghoulish and macabre for saving flowers from my relatives's casket arrangements -- yanno, the big sprays they place over the coffin?  I understand the impulse, is all I'm saying.  Document and share, diffuse the burden (such a useful phrase).

(((Panizzons & families)))

I sent the photos to help Elsa understand what I was explaining to her. I  share with her the day to day situation and wanted her to be able to understand the reality of what was happening. I would not share a photo like this with anyone but her...

It does help that Elsa is there while I am dealing with this, yes.  I need someone, one of my siblings, to be there too, yes.  I am having a difficult time going this alone and out of all my siblings it is only Elsa who can handle the day to  day reality.

It does help to share  this.  I  have some great support here but as far as family there is  no one here but me and wow, it is heavy.

I  thank everyone from the bottom of my heart for the support.

Welcome, cieneguilla. :)

I love that you and Elsa have each other, and you're able to reach out to her and share this, no matter the difficulty. 

I wish I had been contacted when my father was near passing. I didn't know until it was over and I wasn't even completely aware of the severity of his condition until he died. I feel terrible that my sister and mother watched him die on their own. Maybe they had each other...but I was not there.

((((Annalisa and Elsa)))) Sending warm support and strength for you all during this difficult time. 

Thank you, Peppermint.