I know that everyone in my generation has this happening to them now and that because Pluto IS a generational planet, this transit is supposed to be effecting the general population.  BUT, I'm feeling this FULL BLAST with no mercy, personally....

so, what's the story regarding how the outer planets effect an individual when something transits them?  Is everyone around my age group going through the bottomless pit of hell that I am right now, or is it just a random effect of some lesson I haven't learned yet?

I do think it is a couple of things,  yes saturn pluto,  but your pluto may be aspected differently than everyone elses so it would effect them differently.  Plus due to that factor alone and how other people are/have handled their life this too would play out differently.   Yanno like a saturn return,  everyone has one put it effects everyone differently.  One of my long time friends who I grew up with is having her second saturn return one month after me, but our lives are so different so this energy plays out differently.  

Maybe it's like ice cream. Everyone who has this is having ice cream, but there are so many different flavors and likings and dislikings that no to bowls are the same, but it's still all ice cream.

I had this Sam when Saturn was in late Virgo.

I have natal Pluto 6th Virgo (22 degrees). When that hit...Bingo- health crisis, hard work, ups and downs. Some breakthroughs, some breakdowns and I'm far from out of the woods health wise, and as I wrote to you today- now I'm losing more of my hair. It's been a humbling journey.

As for the collective, I should start paying attention.

What do you see so far?

((SAM))

It's effects will be felt in the house involved, on a personal level. Also, the aspects it makes in your chart. Where does it fall and what is happening that is causing these feelings?

I'm having this transit right now. Natal Pluto in the 9th, natal Saturn in the 7th (Cancer). What this transit basically has been doing is imposing huge limitations on my desire to study and learn. Some time ago, I developed a passionate desire in astrology (natal Uranus in 9th, conjunct Scoropio MC) and personal development and feel this big urge to expand my knowledge, but recently, every obstacle possible (most coming from home and job demands) prevents me from doing so. There's just no time and energy! I feel overwhelmed with personal duties, and exhausted. This transit coincides with my Saturn Square Moon and Saturn square Saturn, so there is a lot of emotional heaviness and various upsets in the family added to it.

Mostly it feels like being in a cage when all you do is grow wings and fly (T Pluto on my Ascendant) ... but I  just have to be patient. Thanks to my strong Saturn, Cap AC) this is quite a familiar situation, one that is not easy but can be managed.

Hey you guys!!!  Thanks so much for your insights!!!!  That all makes a lot of sense....

Like Xenia, Pluto's in my Libran 6th hse (as well as my N.Node) so I'm getting a beating with health, personal responsibilites, relationships, service and work and Pluto has several aspects:  it's one leg of a yod with the Moon (Pisces, 12th) as the apex and Saturn (5th) is the other leg, and it also sextiles Neptune (8th) and trines Sun/Jupiter (in the 2nd). 

So, I guess all those aspects would explain the financial crisis (2nd hse), emotional & spiritual crisis (Moon/12th hse), and transformation/letting go crisis (8th hse).  However, they are all supposed to be "harmoniuos" or easy aspects, so wtf??   However I don't see anything with Pluto being easy...

Transiting Pluto is in my empty 9th hse so I think that's working it's magic on my spirituality life philosophy and belief system...although it's also trining my ASC....hmmm....I remember reading about Pluto trine the ASC as being a more fortunate transformation... but I guess that could also be manifesting as diggin up everything about ME that's is no longer serving my higher good??

@AliceT:  WOW!!!!  You have T Pluto ON your Cap ASC?!?!?!?!  How is that manifesting for you??  Is your physical appearance changing?  Or do you feel like you're transforming into a different person?? 

@Sam

Well, because both my Ascendant and Pluto in my natal chart are heavily aspected, lots of things seem to be changing. Appearance is one of them ... I changed my hair, the way I dress, and I also recently had braces removed from my mouth, so after three years looking like a Robocop, I finally have the smile I always wanted :) But it is also my atttitude to appearance that has changed ... I'm now more free to embrace the way I look, with all the imperfections I used to obsess about. I'm far more cool about it, as I've stopped feeling that I have to meet certain "standards" (very Cap AC:)

Also, my whole direction is changing, and what I want from life. I feel more assertive and ready to pursue my new interests (mainly astrology). But it's more about inner freedom ... otherwise, I remain a devoted a mum-of-two and family remains a top priority for me.

Also, I'm learning to work with the heavy Pluto energy in my life ... with Cancer Moon conjunct Saturn square Pluto, difficult emotions used to bring me a lot of suffering (having an Aries Sun, Mercury and Jupiter, this heaviness was always at odds with my daring and optimistic core).  I'm learning lots about psychology and inner growth.

But all this came after a prolonged period of facing some persistent inner demons. There were times I was far from this upbeat ... but this is what Aries folks are like ... once the danger is over, they don't look back. The future is far more exciting :)

Hey Alice:-)  Congrats on all your changes!!!  It sounds like you're integrating everything well, after the storm;-)  I feel kind like I'm at the other end of that, starting the REALLY hard part now, facing the inner demons....

Your Moon, Saturn, Pluto stuff sounds harsh. Ouch!!! I'd be bunched up in a corner:-(  But yah, I'm learning a lot about psychology too and applying astrology to it seems like second nature, so it's definitely helping me navigate through some of the crap.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with it;-)  Really helpful!!!

Off the subject, I noticed you're in Czech Republic??  I've never been there but my family/background is from there.  My great grandma emigrated to the US from there ;-)

yep l'm here at the bottom, let's have some ice cream :-)yay! Saturn is a bitch in every sign for me lately...when in virgo it freaked my body badly( was conjunct ascendant) now conjunct natal pluto, don't want to talk about it ;), in scorpio will conjunct moon/uranus/juno...can't wait..Is this ever going to be over and l can relax a little...??

l did a post on this a while ago

http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/saturn-libra-conjunct-natal-pluto

I agree with h, my saturn conj pluto fell in my 11th house, i became reclusive for 18 months, enjoyed my home like it was an ashram, lots of self,deep inner work, but with a sense of it being the practicle thing to do (mines in virgo) i felt like i was looking to see where i might have been betraying my self, meaning who i really am?

So yeah thats what it was like for a pluto in virgo 11th house

@oanney:  thanks for that link, I read through it and got some great insight!! 

"limitations by people and things and reclaiming personal power it's a big one, it just hurts like hell letting go"

I hear you on that one, BIG TIME!  I feel like I've been duct-taped, hog-tied and wrapped up in celophane and then the universe expects me to try to move....

I'm starting to think (reluctantly;-) that maybe that restriction is actually MY OWN (self inflicted) caused by my Taurus stubbornness and not budging on any other "options" for my life, other than what I WANT or think is best for myself.  I can see/feel this whole scenerio as being a deep lesson about personal power; something I've had an elusive relationship with most of my life. 

And ice cream sounds AMAZING right about now!!!!!!! I'm gonna have cookies and cream, you???

@abluelily:  thats interesting!! Thanks for sharing;-)  I've had some challenges  "feeling" or understanding the 11th...it's empty for me natally and ruled by Aqua.  I've got the transiting stellium in there now and I'me trying to make sense of it.  It seems like a lot of the time I cant make sense of a transit until a while AFTER it happens, and then can make comparrisons to how this thing that happend would mak sense or that how other thing seems right for that house, etc.

It's interesting how it caused you to kind of "go against" the whole groups, friends/acquaintences, community thing, in favor of your own inner-sanctum. 

"i felt like i was looking to see where i might have been betraying my self, meaning who i really am?"

Do you feel like this was in any way related to how you interact with others/group/community?? 

@Sam: yes, born,  bred and still living in the Czech Republic :) Interesting to hear about your roots.

This is a useful thread for me. Just finishing up with this aspect. I was low on energy at the time but had to keep going, especially at work.

I just finished this transit not to long ago, so I went to get the specifics..... I spent much of 2009 homeless living in shelters with my then 1yo daughter. We had literally went into hiding to escape an escalating situation. On the day that I moved out of shelter and back into our own apartment, transiting Saturn was exactly conjunct my natal Pluto! I of course hadn't realized this then having VERY limited internet access. It had been a brutal previous couple of years as Saturn in Virgo first crossed my MC then my Moon (which is conj Pluto btw). And of course no transit over natal planets is complete without at least one retrograde period. I think I got 3 total out of this one! In 2010 as Saturn was separating in aspect to my natal Pluto for the last time, I lost my little brother. The months of the exact aspect that preceded that event were quite difficult because I knew he needed help. Logistically I couldn't offer him the help I most wanted to. Limits.

The time was very trying to say the least, I was an emotional mess for much of it. I began counseling and participated in some really cool groups as well. I had to find out what in my past had led me to that point, the point of being a homeless single mother without a dime in her pocket and running for our lives. That was never part of my life plan for sure! Saturn-Pluto required me to seek out things, very deep private things, and really examine them. What stays and what goes, and n.o.t.h.i.n.g. will escape scrutiny!

But during that transit I also found out I was eligible for VA income based on documented events in my military records. Actually, the VA bent over backwards to help me where they could. They definitely changed my daughters (and mine too) life for the better. I am very fortunate in that I'm allowed to steer our lives as I see fit and not barely scraping by to make rent.

To sum it up: It's a great ride! I think everyone should take it once (weak at heart be damned!), preferably after your first Saturn Return! It may ask more than you are prepared to give up though, and you won't have a choice if Saturn-Pluto require it, so be prepared.