Venus retrograde in detriment (Aries) square stationary Pluto in Capricorn

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    1.
    Elsa

    Who else is getting creamed?

    What are you seeing out there??

     
    2.
    Jessica

    I'm sorry you're still getting beaten up, Elsa!  Do you see this abating at all after Venus stations?  Or is the direct square going to suck just as much because Pluto is retro??? arrrrghhh.

    I have seen both triangles and delusional triangles, exes being delusional and angry, separation, disappointment, and general agitation.  I haven't seen quite as much raw anger, but my Libra does try to avoid conflict.  I try not to read the crime news because it makes me sick.

    The expression "when Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy?" I think we could substitute "Venus" for "Mama."

     

     
    3.
    Elsa

    it's been mindboggling. It hit me terribly, then it his "us" (the soldier and the two of us in composite).... my son is also hit tremendously hard - he got shot, is separated from Quirky Aquarian (told you about that loyalty thing) and we have something truly horrible on deck for tomorrow - that we KNOW about. Who knows what else might crop up.

     Seriously worried about the soldier in that truck. He's 8 days late getting home and never mind the rest of it.

     

    Think there might be a respite with Venus station on/near the degree of it's exaltation but no doubt, blood and guts the the way back through Aries... for us.  These are just very potent degrees for my family and I really think that anything could happen.

     

    er... luckily we can (all) deal with anyone, just please, please no one die.

     
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    moonpluto

    I'm not used to having people hate me-- and I have an angry woman ("open enemy") in my life. Venus travelling back from 8th to 7th. Not sure what she's got in store for me this month but I feel what I've already received isn't the end of it. Kind of a creepy feeling that makes me feel... I don't know what it is-- the lower vibration of scorpio maybe, something sinister...Feels like I'm waiting for other shoe to drop. I suppose it will be Uranian when it does erupt. Sigh.

     
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    Jessica

    Oh, God.  Joining in the prayer that nobody dies.  Anywhere!

    The last transit that felt "bloody" like this for me was Mars retro in Cancer.  Interesting how Venus retro in Aries carries similar themes.  It's immediate, visceral, and so very cardinal.  Ugh.

     
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    ((Elsa))

     

     
    7.
    wyrdling

    i guess i should be upet about losing my wallet, but there wasn't much irreplaceable in there.

    besides, it's happened before.  it's just work.  as long as no one steals my identity :P

     

    i'm sorry to hear this is hitting you so hard.  i guess... pluto venus retragrady stuff is something i'm familiar with.  though usually from the libra pluto angle.  still.  it's like my glasses are already this color and i'm not getting particularly blindsided...

    yet.

     
    8.
    teeceedee

    I'm being slaughtered.  Your blog caught my eye as I perceive you to be such a together person and you say you're getting creamed.  I feel a tad better as a result!  I transferred to another department at end of December and have been run outta town and back to my old area!  I'm just reeling.

     It's odd because I have Jupiter natally in Aries my tenth house of reputation.  My reputation is taking a beating now.  

    I too, am now finding I have enemies like never before.

    My pluto is transforming my 6th house of capricorn...work...day to day.  I am hopeful (though for long moments I have been losing hope) that my current pain is a sign of that transformation

     

     

     
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    maureen

    Venus retrograde story, from a natal venus in aries, 7h house:

    At work, I;m being asked to let go of the things I think make me valuable to others; they keep telling me to let go, stop fixing, stop controlling, and most of all, to address my own shit!   Just before venus went retrograde I cried for three straight days when i realized that under this scenario, I have no bloody sense of my own value.  And then, bam!  I poured myself into creative stuff at work that took me out of the loop I'd been stuck in, and got fantastic response via new teammates.  Old friends started popping up and checking in to say hello.  New friends began to emerge.  After a year-long drought, I got nibbles in the dating department.  Dark mysterious types started flirting with me, and I had enough sense to know, despite my Plutonic lust, I ought not to encourage them one bit.  (I'm growing, I'm changing...hallelujah).  My ex-resurfaced, but not directly  (this has been bittersweet---hate to be reminded of my heart wound).   And I got my tax refund---way bigger than I expected, and way faster too.   And as for that ex---the last time venus went retrograde, we had just broken up.  I poured myself into work.  Now that it's retrograde again, it's occured to me I am being asked to kick away the crutches I used to get over the breakup.   If there is a theme to this RX, it's faith, freedom, and ---oh my God, the one thing I've been praying for forever it seems:  forgiveness.    I feel all three in bits and spurts and I'm...well, I'm amazed.

     
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    lotion

    you guys wouldn't believe the things that are happening around me/things i'm hearing in general 

     

    • my friend lost a ton of money gambling (don't know what hit him, he doesn't have a gamling problem)
    • at school someone's father just passed away (i heard of this from by bf)
    • i saw three car accidents today 
    • they discovered a dead baby (newborn) in a garbage bag in our city today (heard it on the radio)
    • one of my friend's abusive/controlling relationship is climaxing 
    • i heard about a car accident that happened to a relative of someone i know
    • i also heard about a friend of a friend's got hospitalized for substance abuse
    • my period came a week late just to coincide all this 

    when will this stop? it's getting ridiculous 
     

     
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    lotion

    wow, listing out everything totally drained me... 

     
    12.
    Deirdre

    My son, Libra with Moon in Taurus has rage, and he is justified. I am trying to teach him to channel it physically like with a punching bag or pillows.

    I know an Aries-Libra grouwn up love relationship which is undergoing MAJOR stress.

    On March 6, when Venus stationed at 15 Aries, it sat there squaring my natal Saturn. Everyone left town that week and I was down with ugly love cooties.

    The incident with Loonsounds leaving was painful although I never had contact with her. She showed me a mirror to myself and it was brutal to see the chain of reaction.

    I have been doing Pisces burrowing and it seems to help. I am not relaxed and am watching each degree of Pisecs vigilantly.

    The Venus station will hold in a sextile to my natal Venus, and I plan to go shopping for spring clothes where sales people dont look at my private parts.

     

     

     
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    Lupa

    I am having to deal with some intense emotions with my man away.  None of it is bad though and while I see other people around me really struggling it is not hitting me in a negative way at all.   

    John is in Ireland and was sitting in the lobby of an inn located in a town of 150 and his girlfriend from 30 years ago strolls up with her husband.  I didn't bother explaining about Venus to him.  :)  He is there to play music with his band of childhood friends and his cousin Paul.  They're recording an album, doing radio and tv interviews and playing a second live gig tonight.  Last weekend was a very cool fundraiser to benefit a music therapy program at his old school. 

    And of course it's all a very mixed blessing because we couldn't travel together this time and it provides a stark contrast to the struggle that we face living in Atlanta. We would love to move to Ireland.  John would have plenty of work and tons of respect for his talent.  Here he is a computer salesman at a big electronics store and no one knows he is a beloved musician back home.  We are here because of our children who we love.  Easy to see why Aries Venus is a difficult placement even for John who has Aries moon. 

     {{Elsa}}  Sending love and hoping you get through this with everyone you love safe and happy. 

     
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    Anonymous

    Venus is retrograding for me through the sixth house into the fifth.  It goes direct opp my virgo sun.  Anyway it squares my natal moon right now and I am having body problems.  I was really fit doing several military fitness classes and running several times a week.  Then I got back pain like never before mid Jan and knee pain too.  I have had acupuncture and physio and been off sport and it isn't going away.  I had to give up the cross training for yoga but even yoga and walking is giving me pain and now I'm getting weird body image shit because I'm not working out as usual.  I think it is changing my body and it's freaking me out.  I'm feeling tense and unattractive.  I think the lesson is that I am not in control and of course I've been reading advaita so the message is coming at all angles.

    My friend gets married on the 18th - glad she didn't do it a few days earlier.

    I had no idea Loonsounds left.  I miss everything!  Sorry about that Elsa.  I don't get to follow everything on here because life is happening too although right now I wish it wasn't

     
    15.
    Elsa

    I have to say - none of this stuff surprises me. Wicked out there!!

    Loonsounds de-friended me on facebook about 10 days later. I am now total piece of shit status I guess, it's impossible for me to understand.

     
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    Elsa, that is harsh.  I bet you rock in the opinion of those you love though!

    My niece is two years old today and her party is in an hour.  Guess what...she trapped her fingers in the car door this morning.  Not nice.

     
    17.
    Elsa

    Well, I consider the whole thing an accident, sort of like all the cars on the freeway zooming along and then one spins out  or comes in like a T-bone and crashes into another. It's unfortunate but out of your hands if you were driving in your lane to begin with which I am sure I was.

     
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    Anonymous

    I believe you were. Reading the words 'this must have come from right wing talk radio' with the post on pluto in capricorn/shadow side of business struck me as unfair. I think your perspective is very healthy. I have North Node in Libra, and every time I see Mars Libra I try to pay attention. Hopefully there's something to learn from this for other people too?

    There are things going on in my family right now that are just horrific. Sister accusing my mum of horrifying things. My mum was definitely not perfect but I don't believe she should go to her grave with one of her children hounding her and blaming her for everything including the fact that the sky is blue.

     
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    moonpluto

    I didn't know Loonsounds left either. Sometimes I'm here reading everyday and sonetimes I miss stuff. But let me tell you this, one time LS commented on a comment I made (about peregrine placements) and I found it oddly hostile/aggressive. I didn't think my original comment was obnoxious, just sharing what I thought I knew, but they came back with a very intense response. So I thought hmm some kind of issue here. All this to say, I'm not surprised they stormed off. I had a feeling of something just kind of wrong there. Sorry to gossip but after that incident I didn't really want to comment here anymore--

    I've had this problem on line before. People freak out for no reason-

    And to the person who mentioned retro Mars in Cancer, sorry maybe that was Jessica- oh that sucked for me too!

     
    20.
    Jessica

    Elsa, I hope whatever truly horrible thing is going on for you today goes smoooooooothly and much better than anticipated.

     
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    maureen

    Oh Jesus.  No sooner did I write about the upside to this venus retrograde do I get awful news:   a dear friend and co-worker has just gone into the hospital with heart failure.  Is this a reflection of venus retrograde?  or something else?  I'm saying prayers today.

     
    22.
    Elsa

    ((maureen)) I am so sorry. :(

     
    23.
    Elsa

    and Jessica - thank you. I think it will be okay, just know there is almost def. another impact coming and no idea from what direction.

    Feel competant though and that is something. I have seriously talented MFers in my foxhole!!  Whew!

     
    24.
    Jessica

    Whew!!!  :: looks around for who's in my foxhole.  do I have a foxhole?  oops ::

    I did feel like I "knew" Loonsounds a little.  I saw that happen (or what was visible), and at the time I thought 'trainwreck', but car accident is a much better analogy!

    You know, it seems like another really good illustration of the "everyone is different" topic.  From what she wrote, it looked like LS and I had a completely different experience of what Elsa wrote.  I just couldn't relate to her perception at all, good or bad, and I am sure she is of sound mind and reasonable maturity, so I guess there were myriad more distinct perceptions of that blog (and every other one around here) by everyone who read it.  Kinda cool (but I'm sorry she left.)

    Yeah, moonpluto, Cancer Mars retro was pretty bad.  Ugh. 

    ((((((maureen)))))))

     

    shoot, (((((((everybody))))))))

     

     

     

     

     
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    moonpluto

    Lupa: a little off-topic, but your post about your man being away struck a cord with me -- that frustration of the life here and the possibilty there (Ireland). I found myself saying to myself: dang, just take the kids and GO! But I know nothing is so easy--

    I'm not a traveler (saturn is in my 9th - I fear it) but Ireland has always been one place I wanted to go to.

     
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    jenfullmoon

    I'm creaming myself more than the universe is. Other than paying for a massive dental bill, but I knew that was coming. I am putting a lot of stress on myself to come up with some kind of life backup plan and haven't been able to come up with something I like (or haven't already tried and realized I did not like doing), so I was being incredibly irritating to my shrink.

    I realized that I need to CALM THE HECK DOWN or I will be out of my mind very quickly. I'm forcing myself to meditate every day this month for at least ten minutes and take deeper breaths. So far it seems to be helping, as well as distracting myself rather than dwelling on I Should Know Better By Now.

     
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    Deirdre

    At the newspaper where I work, there is a grocery store underneath where today the store manager got stabbed by a serial stabber. This is the serial stabber's 4th grocery store stabbing in 4 days. Helicopters were out, police door to door with color copies of pictures taken by security cameras clipped to their clip boards."DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS MAN?", they asked everyone. The stabbing (Pluto) was for money (Venus). The manager did not die.

     

     

     
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    Becca

    We've had the police in the library where I work four times this week.  First a woman couldn't find the three kids she'd come with, next a homeless guy reported his laptop stolen and the cops wanted to look at our security footage, then we had to have somebody obnoxious evicted...and just this morning there was an elderly lady who didn't know where she was and couldn't convey to us where she wanted to go.

     
    29.
    Gloria

    I just want to give hugs and love to everybody.

    ((((((((((((((((((Elsa, and everybody))))))))))))))

    As for me, Things are just going o.k, nothing out of the ordinary besides my having really terrifying dreams every night... of, well, exes and being pregnant and the baby wont come out and reading some guys head while cutting his hair and saw 3 triangles with the number 6 in each. Scary stuff.... 

     
    30.
    satori

    huh, I guess Loonsounds defriended me too.  I hadn't thought to check.  well, whatcha gonna do.  perhaps it's the beginning of a prodigal son story.

     
    31.
    Jilly

    yeah  (((((((everybody))))))))

    I went to pick up hubby at the airport last night after 6 mo of being apart. Earlier there were tornadoes near the airport, the interstate was a mess, and his plane was delayed 2 hours on the 2nd leg of his journey haha.

    But, reunion!

    The Venus stuff is hitting the pocketbook in a big way. Contacted a lawyer about filing for LTD & SS disability, which seems inevitable, but I've resisted doing it so we're almost out of $.

     
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    Beth

    I have venus in Libra (a whole stellum too). Anything beauty related that can go wrong seems to have done so.

    More seriously, I know of about seven people who have died in three weeks, four severe accidents.

    It's crazy, but it's the kind of crazy that you can ride out instead of letting it roll over you. Maybe this will be good training for the upcoming Uranus Aries Saturn Libra opposition- which will also be my Saturn return (rolls eyes)

     
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    Lunalie

    Well.. the exes have stopped coming out of their graves... I feel better already :)

     
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    Lupa

    Moonpluto, I would take the kids and go in a second.  I have never felt better in my life than I did the two weeks I spent there last spring.  And I have never seen my man shine like he does there among his friends.  You all know how I like shiney.  :)

    But our kids are young and his son lives with his mother and visits John on weekends.  Part of what I love about him is that he is not the kind of man who could abandon his child.  

    If there is a way for this man to express his creative talent I will throw my full support behind him.  I need to see him in his element some of the time at least and most of the time preferrably. 

     
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    luci

    Nothing but smooth sailing with things looking up, on this end.

    But I've said it a bunch of times, now...things seem to work better for me in situations that make most people cringe. 

    Maybe it's just that I've got such bad luck as a general rule that it's hard to notice when things get worse? 

     
    36.
    Elsa

    It was as bad as I expected, maybe a little worse.

     

    I hope things have peaked for now. The soldier is (finally) headed home and this should help immensly.

    Thanks everyone for the support.

     
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    Lupa

    I'm sorry Elsa.  :(  Hope the soldier gets home quick. 

     
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    Jessica

    Oh, crap.  Speedy, safe trip to the Soldier.

    I hope it's peaked for everyone!

     
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    moonpluto

    I'm in the middle of my peak, I think. If peak is the right word. For me, it's women mightily pissed at me in various ways--

    I've got transiting Mars in my 7th, opposing my moon pluto and venus is backing into that 7th.

    Had a nasty incident with one "open enemy" earlier this week. Which I commented on before and today two more incidents with other people, one of them a long term client accusing me of something which I'm pretty sure I did not do. I know I'm being vauge about details but mainly I'm feeling this rage coming forward and not sure where it's going to come from next. I think Mars is conjuncting my Athena - so I am feeling defensive (which doesn't help matters).

    That said, I'm grateful for this forum of people who take astrology seriously.

    And I'm sorry Elsa, and others here, who are having a hell of a time.

     
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    Dina

    Wow, you guys are scaring me.  I'm sorry for all this stuff that's happening to you.  I'm just sitting at home worrying about the various things that you're saying on here.  I've lost my faith that everything will be okay (Jupiter in Pisces in the 1st).  And my parents are busy trying to reassure me.

     

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