Venus square Pluto

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    persian_cat

    Now that we're into relationships of all kinds as a subject, does having a child with a Venus square Pluto natal aspect preempts abusive relationship of/with/between their parents, or exposes these children to abusive relationships?

    I would say, I am having more respect for Pluto now that I have understood it  a little better.

     
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    kashmiri

    I have Venus/Pluto square. My parents' relationship is not abusive in anyway. (Mum is Aries Sun/Aqua Moon, Pluto in Leo. Dad is Libra Sun/Taurus Moon and Pluto in Cancer).

    I was raised with a very strong message about abuse within a romantic/intimate relationship and how to avoid it. I think I was about 6 when my Dad and Mum started drilling in to me if any man raised a hand to me, I was to never ever stay. It's one of the most crystalline lessons I learned as a child.

     
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    TAH

    I have Venus square Pluto. I love my parents dearly, but they definitely are control freaks and I guess I could say they are emotionally abusive in that they need to be in control of everything I do. Often they go as far as to tell me what to think. The older I get, the more I realize this and am trying my best to take their words with a grain of salt.

    My relationships can be emotionally abusive. My first boyfriend was all about controlling me and knowing exactly where I was, and with whom, at all times. Most of my love relationships have a control/power struggle issue to them. Most end badly.

    However, with each experience, I feel more empowered. I grow stronger and transcend after the relationship is done. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to maintain a relationship while using the Venus Pluto energy in a constructive way. It's a lifelong effort.

    Hope that helped.

     
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    Toni

    I have Venus square Moon and I hate my mother.

    I have Venus sextile Saturn and I love my dad!

    But I have no Venus square Saturn.

     
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    persian_cat

    Venus square Pluto = emotionally controlling relationships and one's tendencies towards these kind of situations? 

    I do agree with TAH about exerting free will to overcome this tendency.  Good one.

    So Kash, I think you have to thank your parents for that.  I think there's a need to pay special attention on exercising one's free will when this particular natal aspect is on.

     
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    kashmiri

    Toni I'm sorry you hate your mother...sorry to sound like an old granny but maybe the relationship will improve with time. If you told me some years ago I'd be voluntarily calling up my mum to speak to her I'd think you were insane, LOL

     

     
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    shell

    "sorry to sound like an old granny"

    Haha Kash, that must be a Cappy moon thing to say.  I swear, I can't even think how many times I've put that disclaimer on things I've said and I'm only 28, Geez!!

     
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    kashmiri

    ha ha...my co-workers (in their late 40s) are always getting on my case for saying "back in the day"

    "Oh back in the day, 50 years ago when Kashmiri wasn't even alive.." 

     
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    persian_cat

    That makes three cappy moons right here, right now on this thread.  I wonder if Elsa would think of putting our sun,moon,ASC,venus symbols alongside our usernames.  That would save half of the time determining where one user is coming from.....

     
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    Toni

    Hate is a little strong. I guess I was just having a bad night tonight. Sorry mother!

     
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    persian_cat

    LOL Toni! Goodnight!

     
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    amy

    I've read in many cases that aspects between Venus and Mars can indicate abuse in relationships, particularly the hard aspects. Not sure about Pluto. Pluto seems to me like it would be more about control and about obsessive-compulsive relationships than violent ones, but maybe it indicates a tendency for both. All of the relationships I've had with men have been rife with issues of control, and I definitely see it as a result of the Venus-Pluto aspect in my chart. My Venus is also in the 8th house.

    I don't have the square but I do have the trine between Venus and Pluto. I grew up in a very violent household and my parents were both physically and emotionally abusive. My therapist calls them rage-a-holics, lol. But in my case it's not just Venus-Pluto. There are several difficult characteristics in my chart that point to this, including very difficult aspects, complex relationships between those aspects, and difficult house placements.

     
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    Jilly

    I have Venus/Pluto conj and my parents were not abusive. Nor controlling - actually the opposite, we had pretty much free rein, except an expectation to work.

    Or is it free reign?

    Wouldn't Saturn be a better indicator of parents or am I missing an important interpretation of Pluto?

    I (sadly haha) know Pluto = genetics.

     
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    opal

    I read somewhere that the Venus Pluto square indicates a childhood where one or both of the parents was emotionally absent and the child felt unloved, that they felt they had to earn attention or love from the parent.  This leaves them as adults with a pattern of using manipulative behaviour to get attention/love from the opposite sex. Hence the reputation for obssessive compulsive behaviour in relationships.

    I have this aspect exact; my son has it widely square, as does his father.  Needless to say I am a single mother!  However, in the last few months the father and I have been reconfiguring our relationship in a way I never thought possible, and we are becoming a family in spirit although we now live separate lives.  It just shows what can be done with consciousness. 

    My father had Venus opp Pluto and Mars square Pluto, he also had a Grand Trine with Pluto, Saturn and Uranus (gulp).  My mother had  Pluto aspecting the moon, mars venus and sun but all trine and sextile.  My father controlled and bullied her psychologically to the degree that she had nothing to give us emotionally, she was so wrapped up in her misery. So I do believe that the opportunity to understand these things means we do not have to be controlled by them, as she was.

     
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    persian_cat

    I wish I could turn back time to four years ago, when I could say to myself - you're going to have a venus sq pluto child so beware.  I could have let free will into my judgement more than my instinctive emotions then maybe things would have been different for me and for my girls.  Having the venus sq pluto myself doesn't help either.  So there's much to say about astrology awareness and daily life and the conscious knowledge of interrelationship between the two. 

    I mean, if I could spend days analysing how one company works, shouldn't I spend longer time analysing how my life works out? 

     

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