Every area of my life has been totally whacked by Saturn--not only the last 3 years--but the last 15+ or so. Does anyone know about this--what was it and how was it affecting Virgos? I know we are supposed to be free at last come Halloween.

I cannot wait. Just wondering if others have suffered as much as I have.

Also, what is this talk about something worse happening to us in September?

Saturn has been steamrolling back and forth over my Sun/DSC for some time now; now squaring my MC.  Add to the mix Pluto having been opposite my Mars, now opposing my Moon and squaring my Mercury.  It's gonna get worse in September? I'm tired (swimming with sharks in the work environment is the pits).  I know, what doesn't kill me makes me stronger...........well, I would just as soon pass, thank you very much!  Paranoia and feelings of total abandonment and isolation suck.

Saturn didn't hurt me. If fact, it kind of pulled me out of a depression. Mind you, I feel a heavy weight which isn't entirely pleasant, but it's grounding me.

Beth,

Glad you've not been whacked! You look pretty young--maybe it's because of your age? Just my own personal observation, Virgos under 30 and also Virgo men seem to be less affected by this. Maybe others out there know more about this?

I have so many examples besides my own, but one friend comes to mine--most of her stuff hit between December 2006 - February 2007. The first three things noted below--I went through my first breakup with Dari and had to go stay with her briefly, because we had been living together and my place was rented out. We both knew something was happening.

My friend who is a 34 year-old Virgo had all this happen to her in the last 3 years alone:

#Husband went back to Turkey THE DAY his green card came in the mail. He left without telling her--just a few days before Christmas!

#Got fired from her job.

#Her favorite cousin was killed in Iraq.

#Her overseas grad program got cancelled mid-stream.

#Rapidly gained a tremendous amount of weight; had health problems.

#One bad relationship after the other.

#Her dog was poisoned.

#Career/financial struggles.

#She was very ill and in the hospital last year.

The list goes on....The life of a Virgo today!

It's worse because the opp saturn/uranus is "on" again like last year during the big crash.

But not the same degres, these time it's 24/25 virgo and pisces. Last year it was 18/19 degres

VespaChick...Virgo men have been effected as well. This seasons Americas Got Talent Obama impersonator, Pete Peterkin, who happens to be like a big brother to me, is a Virgo. Saturns transit has effected him creatively. When he told me he was going to be a contestant on Americas Got Talent, I looked at his chart and saw that he was going to have some kind of accident or misunderstanding. Sure enough, during his performance in the semi finals, the stage doors did not open in time which lead to him having a rushed 40 second performance that cost him moving up to the finals. 
I feel guilty that I didn't warn him. But he would not have believed me anyway. He thinks Astrology is a bunch of crap.  

Hey Vespa Chick: I thought I was the only Virgo being singled out by the Universe. I've been going thru a pluto transit over my ascendent since june 1995. I've got Sag on my descendent. It's been one thing after another. I really can't imagine the sun coming out again. I feel at times i'm just plodding along until the Grim Reaper catches up w/ me. What's the point of all this really if I'm here to enjoy my life. Enough with the lessons.

Hey Mimi,

I could also trace my bad luck to about that time...even further if I count my divorce (tho in retrospect getting rid of my FIRST DAMN SCORPIO was a good thing! ) But looking again, maybe it was mid 90s or said that my "good luck" seemed to fade. I used to be such a lucky person! Also my health gradually started declining in the late 90's.

A lot of us Virgos have thought we were suffering alone, but we are realizing that it has been hitting us all. Not that we want others to have the same misfortune. It's just good to know that there is a REASON for all this AND that it should finally be ending! I really think the Universe owes US some really good years, don't you agree?

I am freaking miserable. I can't even imagine being happy anymore. It sucks to say and hear that.

Togi,

I know how you feel. I have been chronically ill for a long time. I actually used to hope for a termainl illness to just quickly take me--I really wanted to die. I was depressed, because I did not understand--I almost thought it was my fault--that I had willed myself to be that way. But now that they are finding out what I have (a myriad of things) and finally gradually getting help, I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel.  I would say my health has suffered the most, to a lesser degree my finances and, well my love life (currently really in the pits if you're following the post I left though it is pretty boring!) But basically my life has sucked all the way around for over a decade but especially the last few years.

Ir also helps to know there is some explanation in the stars AND that our destiny is VERY LIKELY going to change for the better. It's like we've been serving hard time and will be released come Halloween--now if they have been lying to us, then I promise you, I will be the first one to start a riot! But let's hold tight--we've lasted this long. Hopefully soon we will be able to look back on this as a very bad memory.

Vespachick- my life (supervirgo) has been the pits for the past couple of years: severe chronic illness, lost my job, home, in debt, a million bureaucratic obstacles, court case against municipality (that's still running), the works. I wanted to die too. Not anymore. I am on the mend, and I feel everything is on the mend. It's slow, but I will get there. To all Virgos: we'll get there!

Togi, it may be that represents you hitting bottom...  sending much love.

This quad virgo (sun/moon/mars/venus) W/ gemini ascendent has been marching thru hell for over 14 years now. It's a good thing you don't know what you're going into and for how long because you'd probably just do yourself in.  The depths of depression I've become familiar with have no articulate description. How I've kept it  going I just don't know, probably just the polly anna attitude that it can't stay that bad for that long - can it?  HA HA! Talk about a long lonely hibernation. I'm not the same person going in that i'll be coming out that's for sure. How do people survive a POW experience? it's like 14 years wasted not being light and happy or even optimistic. What's the point of all this? I don't want to hear about growing thru lessons. These lessons have taken huge big chunks out of my soul & personalty. I'm feel like i'm shell shocked. If there is a reward at the end of this tunnel it better be really good. It better give me enough energy to get to the end of my life. 

Mimi,

I know! This has taken the prime of my life. They say it started in 96. Mine may have started earlier in '93 when I got divorced. I kept clinging to this memory of myself as this really LUCKY and UPBEAT person. She was still underneath there somewhere. But hopefully we will not have PTSD after all these years of the ravages from every angle! Though hopefully the stars have a way of working their magic.

My own health problems are all reversible (I think), and they are just figuring them out. I think once I FEEL better, I can get a handle on my attitude and energy levels then the rest will follow! I'm hoping!

Anyway it is such a good thing we had no idea what lied ahead for us--I kept thinking (years ago) "I don't think I can take any more!" But then I would perservere.

I was thinking about WHO's NEXT as far as getting hit by Saturn next? I know it goes into Libra but I know it is not supposed to have the same effect. Did astrologers KNOW that we were going to be hit like we Virgos were? I guess there is nothing that can be done. Though in Vedic astrology, there are "remedies" for such situations.

Ugh. Obviously I was feeling too sorry for myself. Hate that. Even though it has been rough, it could be worse. We could be scrabbling around in the dirt looking for our next meal. Lots of virgo's I know have had a better than good year so it must be hitting only a  certain frequency. I broke my cardinal rule. Be thankful. Plus the best thing that helps me get over myself is to help someone else out or in my case usually animals. Have three 10-week old rescue kittens playing havoc in my house right now! Anyone want one?

Nothing like helping others--all creatures great and small--to make you feel better! I was just talking to my Gemini mom about Saturn's effects on Virgos. That things COULD have been worse. I was in a rather serious rear-end collision 2 weeks ago, and thought it was bad luck BUT maybe I was lucky that I actually didn't get very hurt or even killed! The insurance adjuster said one inch closer to the engine the impact would have caused my car to explode! So I do believe I have an army of angels watching over and must be thankful for that!

There is a reason for everything, and there is a light at the end of this tunnel too!

(((Virgos)))

My hubby is a super Virgo and the past few years have really been a kick in the crotch.  His Saturn Return is at it's climax (The Big Finale) accompanied by a lovely Pluto transit.  At least in reference to him, there nothing that indicates things will be looking up in Oct. or even the rest of the year...or for a good many months into next year.  Hang in there everyone!

(((HUGS))) For Virgos.

OK we've agreed that life the past 14 or so years has been difficult. All I care about is now how to keep going and regain some optimism and spunk to complete the rest of my life.  

There is something called post traumatic disorder which I feel might have a bearing in this situation. You don't have to go to war to experience it.

I'm a holistic and pro active  as you can get. When the going gets tough, my creed is "keep moving at all costs." I'm very spiritual and somewhat psychic. I plug into a higher power. But  during this whole thing my body feels heavy  like I'm hauling around cement. I'm not overweight, had a complete check up and exercise like crazy. I'm healthy physically.  THANK GOD

I know there is a light at the end of the tunnel but God it's taking a long time to get here. 

I can't wait for Saturn in Libra and Uranus in Aries! Much more compatible with my Sagittarian self. I think mutables have had a kick in the crotch with Pluto in Sag/Uranus in Pisces and Saturn in Virgo.

But I know there's always a catch! Lol.

My life has been a nightmare. Then again, I have never in my life felt so "alive".  It is as if my brains have been blown out and I am no longer the person I was. So much has been taking from me. I express myself in very very different ways than I ever have. The mutable crunches hit my core personal planets sun and mercury hard.  And every day is about replacing the old with with the true. 

The cardinals will hit my angles and the focus will be more on me in relatiohship with others, than on my own personal transformation and development. (at least, i think ) 

just a wee add on here.. Saturn is at equinox point this year..and that happens every 15 years apparently..so maybe that deeper tide is turning guys,

best wishes from a non Virgo!