I was out for a walk this morning...some of you know I am staying in Mexico (alone, now). I realized that 12 years ago, Jupiter was almost at the same degree as it is in Pisces now. And then, too, I was traveling all alone!!

1998 was the last time I was TRULY alone. No phone, no friends, no common language...the difference now is the Internet...back then I was just alone.

I also realized that Jupiter was/is sextile my Cap Moon in 1st. I feel like I really needed this--and I wonder where I'll be in 2022 (!)

Where were you 12 years ago??

3rd year at college, trying to catch up everybody else after doing very little the 2nd year. Also, feeling an urge to change the course of my life completely. I think had already applied for a Summer job in Italy, which eventually brought that change. I had also a short but very intense fling with an Italian guy visiting his friend who was doing a semester in Finland (and eventually remained here, I've seen the friend a couple of times in these years, the last time just  a couple of months ago).

I had also started using internet and was regular in a public (you couldn't send private messages there) chatroom. There was a period I wasn't in any contact with people I met there, but was actually contacted by some (I still have the same hotmail account !) when Facebook exploded. 

Hmm 12 years ago I was pregnant with my first child. Her "father" and I had just broken up and I was in the process of buying my first home on my own. I believe I was also having a Saturn return.

  I lost my mother...nooo....no more loss please.

6 weeks after that I dated someone I knew wasn't good for me, and my instincts were proved correct.  Within two months I dumped him, though it was kind of like saying goodbye to a closing door with his cheating ways   :)'

within six months I had bid on a property in the country with my small inheritance  (thanks mom).  Wish I'd waited, I'm still wondering if Merc was retrograding.  Guess I'll look that up soon.

Astrology, after all these long years, continues to astonish me. This is a cycle that I wouldn't have thought about if someone had not brought it up -- chrispito, I owe you a bright idea. You might have a long wait ahead of you, though. :)

I was feeling pretty much the same way about my then-job. In a position of responsibility and power, but on the losing side of it and thinking that staying in it would be absolutely insupportable and detrimental to my self-respect. And I did not leave until a little over a year later. I find myself in the same mindset and timetable right now. 

It's freaky, that's what it is. :)

I was hatching the inkling of an idea that the world might not end if I left my husband.  It would take me several months to get the idea fully formed and get with it, but by Christmas I was gone, and I've never looked back.

chrispito, is Jupiter your chart ruler, too?  So interesting, because last night I found this startling correspondence to events in my Sag rising boyfriend's life and Jupiter-Pluto conjunctions (which is only a few years longer than a regular Jupiter cycle, I think).  I will add to your brilliant observation and say that I think it is an even stronger pattern for Jupiter folk! 

jessica you know, it's weird--Jupiter is my chart ruler. And I only very recently started even thinking about it.

I'm going to paraphrase something Elsa wrote--basically that a Jupiter cycle, something comes into being or something like that (sorry if I'm out to lunch with this Elsa!)

eg. seeds planted, and you see the full picture 12 years later

Miss, yeah you have a FAMILY now! See how cool this is??

Neva--I've been thinking about this really hard, and trying to go backwards from other key events in my life. Eg. Sept. 2006 my Jupiter was conjunct my 11H Scorpio Uranus and I ended a friendship with a Scorpio girlfriend I was once close to. Sept. 1994...same thing...and I also effectively ended a friendship with a Scorpio girlfriend! (Though it was because I moved cities, not bad stuff).  Also in 1998 I saw my first art exhibit that MOVED me (before that, I was like--wow, pretty things--next). I SAT UP and took noticed. One of the key events that made me want to start making art!!

Candela do you feel there's a link between emotions/events of then and now?

What I really want to ask you guys...thinking of where you WERE do you think it can help you where you are heading, NOW?

(Sorry for the caps, lol)

At the age of 54 I got a few Jupiter cycles under my belt.  I am a Sag sun and a Pisces rising(some practice that pisces used to be ruled by jupiter and now co-rules with neptune), and my neptune sextiles my jupiter anyway.   It is actually this recycling that brought me to astrology.  It started a little over two years ago with a saturn cycle that is now bumping into a jupiter cycle. 

The cycles are the same,  loosing a relationship and standing on the threshold of starting a new one,  returning to school to further my education.   I am in the exact same place now as I was 12 years ago, and 12 years before that, and 12 years before that.  The only difference was 36 years ago the cycle didn't feel as strong as it does now.  It seems with each cycle the situation becomes more intense.  I keep thinking that while Jupiter keeps recycling the situation, it is Saturn who is making the lesson of the situation more intense.

I feel like Bill Murphy in Groundhog Day, got keep doing it over until I get it right! If not I know where I will be in 12 years from now, and yes I am willing to bet the rent on it.

Maybe it's only me, but in my n. chart,  Jupiter has only one hard aspect and yes it is with saturn.  And we all know what saturn is doing here lately! 

Collectively do you think that this current Jupiter recycling is being affected by the current Saturn, Pluto transits?   If so are they affecting the same houses in some way as they did 12, 24 or 36 years ago?

I was still in Iowa... possibly between jobs... wondering "what next"

......

And now??? Not in Iowa, not quite between jobs, and wondering "what next"

My last semester the first time through college.  I gave it up as a lost cause.

12 years later, I'm semi-back in school (and on academic probation again).

12 Years Ago....    ...The Dark Ages.

I was still 1/4 complete bastard, but on my way to finally shaking it off.

That year is the only year I ever walked out on a job, burning a bridge without warning, leaving the third phone they'd given me in that Reservations position held together by masking tape from having slammed it down so hard and so often in my useless little rages...

My brother and I had moved from a pretty spacious, nice apartment in Campbell, to a cramped hell-hole in West San Jose.

I guess, living-wise life hasn't changed all that much--still sharing an apartment, still living month-to-month, and trying to maintain a steady job (Saturn in Taurus influence much?)--but, personally, I'm far better than I have ever been in my life.  I like to acknowledge the change, but I hate to remember the person I was 12 years ago...although I was not quite as much of a loser as I was 26 years ago.

Yanno, Nutsy, that's interesting...  I have had a lot of petty, little rages but I have never, ever seen myself as anything other than an upstanding person.  Even though I've done some really shitty things that I'm sorry about, I still never doubted my basic integrity.

Which either makes me self-righteous and delusory, or confident and secure.  With sun-Saturn conjunct and trining Neptune, I'm at a loss as to which.  *laughs*

I was ski bumming in Colorado and had a super hot read headed girlfriend who later gave me grief but at the time...  Fuckin' great times.

to answer Chrispito - I absolutely wouldn't be the person I am now without the stuff that happened then.  It completely changed my life, my attitude, my lifestyle.

12 years ago - very naive when it comes to having kids. I thought you were pretty much guaranteed to have things come out well, especially if you did things right.

SaDiablo,

I liked rage, actually.  I like losing it and smashing shit with my fists, and popping holes in the walls by punching them, taking my baseball bat to something that pissed me off, and just obliterating things.  Explosive impacts make me feel better, I used to vent with authority... 

But that rage would kill me if I don't contain it, so I've been finding ways to avoid the blow-up, because that kind of anger can be detrimental to my health.

12 years ago i was still on my 3rd year of highschool and i cannot remember if i was alone or not. what i know right now is that I AM INDEED ALONE. I am alone doing my own thing. I am happy though, painting and focusing all my energy in the arts. If this is what Jupiter in pisces is all about then, I can say that its a good thing in the long run. For the mean time, I feel sad and alone once in awhile.

12 years ago, I was a newlywed of just 6 months, and I'd just started a new job that was excellent at first, but turned into a nightmare when a horrific new boss arrived.  That period in my life was pretty confusing--not surprising, since T. Jupiter was in my 12H.

I just looked up my marriage chart (it's saved on Astro.com) and Jupiter is prominent--squares Mars and the Moon, and opposes my Sun/Mars conjunction.

(((Elsa)))

Chrispito, I hope you get some company soon.

Nutsy, I hope you can appreciate your growth since 'back when'.  You too, Shannon !

As for me, I was rageful and angry; and when that did'nt make any difference, it was turned inward. I was depressed and constantly sick -- pneumonia on five occasions over fifteen month's time; and more. I discovered that I was feeling trapped in my marriage, and the reasons why, but worse than that; the onus was on me to do something about it. I was as far from living my truth as I could get, and remain alive.

I received a lot of nurturing (that I sought out) as acupuncture, massage therapy, etc., and it was wonderful and supportive; but my life needed to change. I went after my artistic urges full force, and also received my first degree attunement in Reiki (12 years ago).

That still was'nt enough. I got (12-step) recovery from codependency, and a divorce.  Before that I naively thought that if I did everything right, my marriage would be fine and so would I. Bullshit !

So, twelve years later, I'm free from my marriage, but I'm raising my kids alone b/c my ex died. I'm a Reiki master who is making a living in an occupation that's got nothing to do with healing. I've had to sell the equipment I had accumulated to create my ceramics studio. I have to go out and bust my ass for a living when I'd rather be a stay-home mother, and I'm exhausted and alone. But I'm free, I've found wholeness for myself, and I wait in the void; uncertain if I want to disturb my hard-won peace with another relationship. But I can honestly say that I'm ecstatically happy compared to before, so I guess that's something.

I'm sorry to hear your ex died, ReikiHeart.:(

Elsa, if it's any consolation at all, they don't forget what you've taught them, they're just willfully ignoring it.  One day they usually come back to the family ways.  I do have to say, betrayal of your family values by your children is one of the hardest testings I've been through.  I felt very pointless and rejected. 

edit:  sorry to veer off topic above.  On topic: if I follow this Jupiter transit up the way I did last time with a man young enough to be my son...no, no, just NOT happening.  That was a completely ridiculous relationship, and I blame myself because I was the older one.  I did learn that sometimes you just have to hurt someone and end things.

ReikiHeart,

I'm sorry to hear of your hardships. 

I definitely appreciate my growth from what I used to be.

brizo - just to be clear, that is not what happened in my case. There may be some urban legend out there (I don't know and I don't want to know) but I am the horse's mouth and telling you that my experience and that of my family is not addressed or described by your remark.

I pretty much discarded everything my parents taught me if I didn't like it.  I think it's what kids should do.  With all due respect to mom and dad, I wasn't born to be what they thought I should be.  I was born to be me.  They were the bus, thanks for the ride in -genuinely.  I'm off on my own now and will do as I see fit, your ideas lasted until I was about 14, with some residual deprogramming taking another decade.

Elsa, describing my own experience.  Sorry for projecting. I have no idea of your past other than what you've posted here, and I'm a newbie so...I don't know a lot.  Sounds interesting though and I'd buy your memoirs    :)

No problem, brizo.  No harm done. :)

I am fairly lonely I've decided. I'm happy I go home in a week.

Thinking about this today--I had virtually no friends when Jupiter was last in Pisces. I remember I got used to it. I had a great day yesterday--I did a shit load of artwork. I think I DO need copious amounts of time alone to accomplish creative work. But it's hard, because with my Sag/Gemini on my ASC/DES axis I am social.

I do see a tie in 1998 here. I was carving a path in places unknown, in my heart and otherwise and there's no way I'd be able to do what I do now without that seed. So, no I'm not living in a squat and taking drugs all the time like I was then, but I am accessing other dimensions, though now it's a sober escape

Dealing with my daughter's diagnosis - she was 3.

You have come a long way Chrispito (oh hell I still want to call you Kash!)

I am very proud of you! 

Nutsy, Chrispito, thanks for your support. You're beautiful.

As for hardships, I tend to look at them as opportunities for growth, some are just more forced than others. I have fixed signs @ the cardinal points in my chart, with Taurus on the MC; so I'm probably one destined to either just coast along or get kicked in the ass when it's time to shift !

I just hope the coming twelve years are kinder to us all...

(((((((Dorothy))))))))).