Mercury in Scorpio post of the day. :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6531852/Woman-claims-order-banning-her-from-noisy-sex-is-breach-of-human-rights.html
 

Reminds me of an old roommate I had who SCREECHED during sex. I am willing to ignore a certain level of noise but the gal I knew was ridiculous. Plus, I really don't need to feel like I'm in the bedroom with you. 

Sounds like they are showing off to me - I'm no prude, but I keep my private life really, really private - I would be mortified, but whatever, she looks pretty pleased with herself.  Poor neighbors!

True, but did you look at the sound levels?  To quote

Specialist equipment installed in Miss O'Connor's flat by Sunderland City Council recorded noise levels of between 30 to 40 decibels, with the highest being 47 decibels.

I mean - isn't 50 dB about average conversation level?  I am going to look.

Ah, I looked and I'm getting between 50 and 60 dB as normal conversation level.  (one source:  U Wisconsin page )

Not to be insensitive to the fact that some things should remain private and the smart and considerate thing to do is close your windows, buy a ball gag, whatever.  *chuckle*  It kind of feels to me like she's bragging, and that's kind of rude.  But who knows from one or two articles what the rest of the story is *shrug*

If she is living on a council estate, chances are she is living in quite close quarters with other people--I remember one council flat I lived in over there, we could hear conversations in the next flat over. Not just rumble rumble, but blah blah blah. So, I don't know. Buy a ball gag and then you can scream with abandon.:)

Yeah I found this to just simply be hilarious!

I don't know,  this bugs me, I think she ought to be able to make noise if the decible levels are as described, she really is not loud,  she is quieter than conversation and it is the fault of the cheap apt or whatever..

 I would be extremely irrate to have neighboors telling me to be quieter than an average conversation when I'm fucking. And if I was really tired of listening to my neighbors have sex, I would move to a better apt, or stop standing outside their window.  This reminds me of the man who was arrested for indecent exposure, because he got a drink of water naked first thing in the moring, in his own home, and could be seen out the window. I just think people need to back off and let others live there lives.

Definately showing off but I'm surprised how low the decibel levels are when you actually put them in context. This is quite an old story but it might have recently been legally resolved.

I should clarify I don't think that the State should be able to obtain an order against her.

Purely thinking of listening to sounds of other people screwing and describing an entirely subjective experience.

I hope I don't get in trouble with the board, but this thread does pique my interest about women becoming overwhelmed by passion in the throes of love-making. Disclaimer: my question isn't meant to imply that I'm a super lover or some Don Juan.

As a heterosexual male I've only had sex with women i.e., I have no idea what kind of noise men make during sex. On numerous occasions I've noted my female partner will make so much noise that I'm compelled to point out that a passerby could presume she's being murdered. Invariably she's unaware of how loud she is. Typically she's in such a fog of rapture (her near complete loss of self is itself a source of great fascination to me) that she's oblivious to her moans.

Discounting that I'm only attracted to shrieking women, do women 'lose' themselves during sex more so than men? Or maybe my question is... is it more typical than not that women are very vocal during sex? Just curious.

Yeah, Julian, this story is about two cretins shagging loudly possibly with the sad intention of being noticed, they'd probably sell their sex tapes if only anyone would buy them and in an ideal world they'd have their antics run on a loop over Times square.

I'm not sure if men make much noise during sex, maybe some of the girls here can answer that. I know it would turn me on no end if a man was naturally vocal. By the way women are aware that they are making loud noise during sex, they may be focussed on the sensation but the voice is a way of expressing the joy and they are conscious of it, even if someone is drunk they know if they are 'loud' or not in bed.

Julian:

At times I have no idea at all how loud or quiet and lose myself completely. Depends on the girl.

Julian I've had (male) partners who were very quiet during sex and also quite rowdy. 

From 'History of Sexuality' by Michel Foucault: 

"Psychoanalysts... have challenged the simple little machinery that comes to mind when one speaks of repression; the idea of a rebellious energy that must be throttled has appeared to them inadequate for deciphering the manner in which power and desire are joined to one another;

they consider them to be linked in a more complex and primary way than through the interplay of a primitive, natural and living energy welling up from below, and a higher order seeking to stand in its way; 

thus one should not think that desire is repressed, for the simple reason that the law is what constitutes both desire and the lack on which it is predicated."

That last line is what caught my interest. I'm interesting in the power thing in sex, both personal and societal..maybe that's Cap Moon in a T square w/Pluto and Venus 

I think forcing others to listen to you having sex is pretty selfish, egotistical, and really, why you think anyone would give a shit about you and your orgasms is beyond me.  And not everyone can "just move" to another apartment - people's lives are a little more complicated than that.  Of course, just my opinion.

Reminds me of an old roommate I had who SCREECHED during sex.

Ha Ha. We've all had one of those eh? I think maybe some men and women get their sexual how to's from porn. Of course, traditional porn would have a woman going into loud spasms of glory no matter what the man looked - like a la Ron Jeremy. (Shakes head in disgust).

On the civil liberties front:

Earplugs.  Polite requests.  Not a motherfucking state order.
I realize this is in the UK, but I'm sick and tired of governments trying to regulate every aspect of being human.  Get the fuck off my back and do something actually important to running the country!!!
Correlation:  I'm an asthmatic and have a pretty long list of chemical allergies.  Do you see me lobbying to ban perfumes and dyes in everything I could conceivably come in contact with?  No.  Am I out and about railing about people abusing perfumes and sending me into asthma attacks, demanding that the government make them stop?  No.  I respect everyone else's personal choice and right to stink up their lives and if I have to be around someone who uses something that sends me into allergic / asthmatic fits, I explain my problem politely and they are usually more than happy to help by not being a walking cloud of toxic, smelly doom.

On the volume question:

I'm loud.  Correction:  I'm LOUD.  If the sex is good, I'm extremely hard-pressed to be quiet, although I can do it if I need to and anyone/everyone involved doesn't mind walking out with bruises and/or scars.  For me, it's not conscious or showing off...  I start out fairly quiet but eventually I can't hold it in anymore.  The noise-making is almost as much of a release as the orgasm, and I can definitively state that when I am trying to control the noise level, sex is usually no where near as good for me.  There's something about trying to control one part of myself while actively trying to lose control of another that just puts a damper on every aspect, not just one.
In my experience, people are quiet, although I think men try to hold it in a little more.  Apparently it's not macho or some such bullshit to vocalize your enjoyment.  I rather prefer people who will vocalize, though.  Since my eyes are normally closed, it's feedback I wouldn't otherwise have, plus it turns me on.  I had to train my ex to be noisy, otherwise he'd just lie there letting me do the work with no effin' clue whether or not he was having fun.  By the end, though, he was noise machine -- even got him to growl!  *laughs*  Luckily, SuperScorp is already noisy and I'm coaxing more and more noises from him all the time.  Yay!

I can be quiet if I have to be, but it's also not the release it should be then... he he.  I've been with men who make no sound, and that's really disconcerting, like, isn't he enjoying himself? 

 As for the folks in the article... seems to me some compromise/adjustments could be made?  Earplugs, some sort of soundproofing (egg cartons?).  And yeah, the woman doesn't have to be so smirky.  

 I spent a night in a hotel once where at first I thought there was a dog barking (yipping) in the next room.  Well of course it turned out not to be a dog!  It was pretty hilarious, but I bet it wouldn't be so funny if I had to hear it every night.